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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:59 pm

Precisely Sotos, I don't respond seriously to Shah, because as I said earlier, he is just too stupid to engage with properly, instead, I prefer just to laugh at his idiocy. :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:23 pm

Sotos wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Aww getting touchy are we Shitmon! :lol: :lol:

Stop thinking about yourself only you selfish prick! We are humans too you know!


So what bothers you? Partition or the 18%. If they offered you partition with the land you occupy now you would say no? I don't think so, because you do everything you can to get the "trnc" recognized!


i dont occupy no ones land!!

and wether you like ir or not, TRNC WILL be recognized eventually my friend, and if you go about with a mentality such as Shitmons you will be left with nothing but 3/1 ;)
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:29 pm

Simon wrote:Lena,

OK, TCs have given you interviews, but that doesn't really say a lot does it? If they even refused to talk to you because you were GC, I would have found that shocking and extremely racist. So really this does not prove much or say anything. You believe the young will change the situation, I am not so sure. I believe it is actually the young TCs that are more in favour of the 'TRNC' and more nationalistic than the old, because many of them are Turkish settlers. You believe that the new generation will change the percentages, well, I have not seen any research that may suggest this; in fact I have heard the opposite. In your post, you seem to really engage with wishful thinking in its most extreme form; in the sense that you have convinced yourself that somehow, the new generation is going to come and sweep all our problems away. The reality, in my opinion, will be somewhat different. Where are the protests of the new generation, with regard to the huge 'TRNC' flag, for example? I really cannot see what basis your optimism is founded upon.

I believe that if a solution does not arrive soon, the 'TRNC' will be incrementally promoted into a fully viable state within 10-15 years. The current situation cannot last forever.

I was simply asking the question, which of the 4 options will GCs choose? Simply waiting, as you say, hoping for a miracle, could easily cost us everything. However, I will go along with the majority's will.


I deplore the tone and abuse you throw about but have to say I agree with you totally, you are being both realistic and taking into account what can really be achieved the rest is pie in the sky that will never materialize.
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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:35 pm

I only insult others when they insult me first. However, I don't expect you to notice that, especially when I am arguing against your friends. :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:39 pm

Simon wrote:I only insult others when they insult me first. However, I don't expect you to notice that, especially when I am arguing against your friends. :roll:


I did notice him insult you in this thread, you attacked him first so why not stick to your arguements which are very valid yet your bad mouth just ruins anything you are trying to say.
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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:51 pm

[quote]Simon doesnt seem to be thinking for both communities, he is just after whatever he can grab from the deal[/quote]

That was his first comment to me. You may not consider that an insult because you are probably used to people talking about you like this, but I am not. This was an insult to me, and I replied. Therefore, I did not attack him first and you are incorrect as usual. Consequently, why don't you stick to your Turkish propaganda and not let any other incorrect arguments you come out with ruin that.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:55 pm

Simon wrote:
Simon doesnt seem to be thinking for both communities, he is just after whatever he can grab from the deal


That was his first comment to me. You may not consider that an insult because you are probably used to people talking about you like this, but I am not. This was an insult to me, and I replied. Therefore, I did not attack him first and you are incorrect as usual. Consequently, why don't you stick to your Turkish propaganda and not let any other incorrect arguments you come out with ruin that.


Which part of the above statement is an insult? thinking about the other community?? I agree with you is that propaganda as well? r u now promoting TC propaganda?
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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:08 pm

If you cannot see what is an insult in the above comment, then I am not going to help you. :roll:

I am talking about your Turkish propoganda, i.e. genocide etc, surely that wasn't too hard for you to work out..... :roll: By the way, we do not agree; you see partition as an ideal solution, I do not. If TCs wanted unification tomorrow, I would be delighted; you would try to change their minds....understand?
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:30 pm

Hey Simon, maybe you want me to give you my house too, will that be your ideal "unity"? :roll:
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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:59 pm

Not at all, as long as it is legally yours. My ideal unity would be based on fairness and proportionality. 1 person, 1 vote and 1 state. If you want two states, then again I refer back to proportionality and fairness - an 82/18 split, which is based on population figures. What other way is fairer?
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