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Postby karma » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:14 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:Oh gosh karma is drunk! BEWARE! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:15 am

karma wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:Oh gosh karma is drunk! BEWARE! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
KES SESINIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII :evil:


Saka yaptim yawwww! Beware necin dedigimi bilmiyorlar zaten :wink:
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:17 am

already have 2 litres of red wine and listening to Bob Marley..


Are you taking in Bob Marley's "enosis" with Africa? I suppose that was ok for the Jamaicans then huh?
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Postby karma » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:28 am

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
already have 2 litres of red wine and listening to Bob Marley..


Are you taking in Bob Marley's "enosis" with Africa? I suppose that was ok for the Jamaicans then huh?

nope dear snake, I m listening to ''no woman no cry'' :cry:
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Postby Natty » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:37 am

karma wrote:the problem is people who think like natty,me, t_c and few others are very few...and since we r not Che Guevara..we r only wasting our times :(


Oh I don't know Karma, if we all get together, you never know, in a few years time our faces could also be on nearly every students wall and T-shirts... :wink: :lol:
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:39 am

nope dear snake, I m listening to ''no woman no cry''


Do you like reggae? Do you like it when countless reggae artists talk about black nationalism and unionship with Africa as a result of foreign colonial oppression?? Reminds you of something familiar doesnt it!
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Postby Natty » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:41 am

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Natty wrote:Hi Turkish Cypriot, those pictures are very sad..:(

Horrible crimes were indeed committed against innocent Turkish Cypriots, the events in Tochni and other Turkish Cypriot villages for example (Only the other day my Grandmother was saying how her father was in tears after he heard what happened in the village of Aloa and others nearby. He was friends with many of the people who lived in those villages, and he couldn't believe that anybody could do such a thing a thing, especially to innocent women and children...). No one is denying that massacres of Turkish Cypriots happened, and that those people that committed those crimes were criminals through and through, but what angers people is when a one sided and many times over exaggerated (The claims of a genocide for example) are put forward as the only fact of the Cyprus problem, when evidence shows otherwise...It doesn't really honour all the others who suffered, the Greek Cypriots, the Armenian Cypriots, the Maronite Cypriots, the Latin Cypriots, etc...

The Cyprus problem is so complicated, it doesn't just involve us Cypriots, but also Turkey, The Junta, England, America, the UN...I don't think anyone will ever know the full truth behind it, but one way of trying to understand it is to stick to ‘hard facts’ as much as possible, and try and look at the whole picture….



Good post Natty! I undestand completely where you're coming from there and the reasoning behind it. It's always the ladies who make sense in here! :D


Thank you TC! Well of course...I'm pleased you've noticed... :wink:
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Postby Natty » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:42 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:
Natty wrote:Hi Turkish Cypriot, those pictures are very sad..:(

Horrible crimes were indeed committed against innocent Turkish Cypriots, the events in Tochni and other Turkish Cypriot villages for example (Only the other day my Grandmother was saying how her father was in tears after he heard what happened in the village of Aloa and others nearby. He was friends with many of the people who lived in those villages, and he couldn't believe that anybody could do such a thing a thing, especially to innocent women and children...). No one is denying that massacres of Turkish Cypriots happened, and that those people that committed those crimes were criminals through and through, but what angers people is when a one sided and many times over exaggerated (The claims of a genocide for example) are put forward as the only fact of the Cyprus problem, when evidence shows otherwise...It doesn't really honour all the others who suffered, the Greek Cypriots, the Armenian Cypriots, the Maronite Cypriots, the Latin Cypriots, etc...

The Cyprus problem is so complicated, it doesn't just involve us Cypriots, but also Turkey, The Junta, England, America, the UN...I don't think anyone will ever know the full truth behind it, but one way of trying to understand it is to stick to ‘hard facts’ as much as possible, and try and look at the whole picture….



Good post Natty! I undestand completely where you're coming from there and the reasoning behind it. It's always the ladies who make sense in here! :D


Thank you TC! Well of course...I'm pleased you've noticed... :wink:
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Postby Natty » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:48 am

Get Real! wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:
Natty wrote:Hi Turkish Cypriot, those pictures are very sad..:(

Horrible crimes were indeed committed against innocent Turkish Cypriots, the events in Tochni and other Turkish Cypriot villages for example (Only the other day my Grandmother was saying how her father was in tears after he heard what happened in the village of Aloa and others nearby. He was friends with many of the people who lived in those villages, and he couldn't believe that anybody could do such a thing a thing, especially to innocent women and children...). No one is denying that massacres of Turkish Cypriots happened, and that those people that committed those crimes were criminals through and through, but what angers people is when a one sided and many times over exaggerated (The claims of a genocide for example) are put forward as the only fact of the Cyprus problem, when evidence shows otherwise...It doesn't really honour all the others who suffered, the Greek Cypriots, the Armenian Cypriots, the Maronite Cypriots, the Latin Cypriots, etc...

The Cyprus problem is so complicated, it doesn't just involve us Cypriots, but also Turkey, The Junta, England, America, the UN...I don't think anyone will ever know the full truth behind it, but one way of trying to understand it is to stick to ‘hard facts’ as much as possible, and try and look at the whole picture….


Good post Natty! I undestand completely where you're coming from there and the reasoning behind it. It's always the ladies who make sense in here! :D


Ignorance is bliss for the ladies and for T_C... :(

Congratulations T_C you've added your bit of garbage in the pile of TC propaganda, as if we didn't have enough of that already and Nutty the ignorant fell right for it.

Our friendship is dissolved and that's a promise.


Get real; I would genuinely like to know why you feel I’m ignorant and why you do not agree with what I wrote...

I'd like to think that when it comes to the Cyprus problem I'm open to all new pieces of information and other people's opinions...

I certainly haven't got a set idea of why we have the Cyprus problem, I'm definitely still learning. And I pretend to be no expert…

I merely stated that Greek Cypriot extremists did commit crimes against some Turkish Cypriots and that I condemn those crimes, but that I do not think it is right to try and present a one sided view, especially an over exaggerated view (And I used the genocide claim as an example) as being the only part of the Cyprus problem. And that when studying the Cyprus problem you should try and stick to hard facts and also try and see the other point of view...was I wrong in thinking that?

(And sorry everyone, I accidentally posted my last post twice..)
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Postby Nikephoros » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:00 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:They were foolish enough when they didn't think of the concequences of the coup, do you think they would of been so stupid as to kill the hostages that Turkey was there for?


Now let us see what an official constructed Turkish Cypriot kanum released upon history says:

http://www.trncpresidency.org/about_trnc/breakdown.html
"On 15 July 1974 Greek troops assembled in Cyprus for the purpose of overthrowing Archbishop Makarios and making Nicos Sampson the new president. A coup d’etat was started and they began to kill not only fellow Greek Cypriots but also Turkish Cypriots. The Turkish Cypriots asked for help from the guarantor states, but only Turkey responded. On 20 July 1974 motherland Turkey sent troops to Cyprus in order to save the lives of the Turkish Cypriots. This intervention by Turkey, called a “peace operation” by the Turkish Cypriots, was legal according to Article IV of the Treaty of Guarantee."

I got you and other Turkish Cypriots liars to retreat from that official history and argue that the Greek Cypriots never attempted a genocide, when you yourself to start this thread posted a newspaper photo alleging genocide. All because I am no loser leftist concerned only with reconciliation.
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