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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:02 am

Turkish Cypriot, the so called picture of Makarios blessing a hand grenade, which is another Turkish fabrication, is one of those dodgy pictures you talk about. So, do you believe that these other 'dodgy' pictures are really of what Turkish lies perceive them to be??

Also you havent anwered my question about the English newspapers. Everyone in England knew Makarios was anti-British, hence the negative newspaper rhetoric about him in this country which you deem to be the truth.

So, when The Daily Mail or The Sun publishes articles that put Iraqis, Iran or anyone else that has stood up to the British army, in a negative light - do you believe them so easily too??
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:18 am

Well truth hurts gardaccim, why else would they get so touchy about Fuckarios....


I believe that to be true in the case of Makarios from some of the replies I got...

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It's of no use snake because no matter what I say you won't believe it and you'll find something to dismiss it.

I don't believe them easily no, but when it's my own people that have suffered I tend to trust them, specially when my sources come from my family members who experienced life in those times. Just like you believe what your people say, I believe mine. I can respect and take on board your views but most GCs can't seem to do the same. To you our story is propaganda and to us yours is. All we're doing is going round in circles so I have to say it was pointless opening this thread...
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:20 am

Well truth hurts gardaccim, why else would they get so touchy about Fuckarios....


I believe that to be true in the case of Makarios from some of the replies I got...

@Snake

It's of no use snake because no matter what I say you won't believe it and you'll find something to dismiss it.

I don't believe them easily no, but when it's my own people that have suffered I tend to trust them, specially when my sources come from my family members who experienced life in those times. Just like you believe what your people say, I believe mine. I can respect and take on board your views but most GCs can't seem to do the same. To you our story is propaganda and to us yours is. All we're doing is going round in circles so I have to say it was pointless opening this thread...
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Postby karma » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:23 am

since Makarios was a priest then plz dont expect him to be pure and good person...
why on earth a priest shld involve politics..isnt it a shame?? it is not heir business at all..
i hate all imams and priests
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:32 am

karma wrote:since Makarios was a priest then plz dont expect him to be pure and good person...
why on earth a priest shld involve politics..isnt it a shame?? it is not heir business at all..
i hate all imams and priests


I dont karmacigim! I think a horror film should be made with someone playing him in the lead...
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Postby karma » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:34 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:
karma wrote:since Makarios was a priest then plz dont expect him to be pure and good person...
why on earth a priest shld involve politics..isnt it a shame?? it is not heir business at all..
i hate all imams and priests


I dont karmacigim! I think a horror film should be made about him...


loooll, wht about exorcist?
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Postby Natty » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:42 am

Hi Turkish Cypriot, those pictures are very sad..:(

Horrible crimes were indeed committed against innocent Turkish Cypriots, the events in Tochni and other Turkish Cypriot villages for example (Only the other day my Grandmother was saying how her father was in tears after he heard what happened in the village of Aloa and others nearby. He was friends with many of the people who lived in those villages, and he couldn't believe that anybody could do such a thing a thing, especially to innocent women and children...). No one is denying that massacres of Turkish Cypriots happened, and that those people that committed those crimes were criminals through and through, but what angers people is when a one sided and many times over exaggerated (The claims of a genocide for example) are put forward as the only fact of the Cyprus problem, when evidence shows otherwise...It doesn't really honour all the others who suffered, the Greek Cypriots, the Armenian Cypriots, the Maronite Cypriots, the Latin Cypriots, etc...

The Cyprus problem is so complicated, it doesn't just involve us Cypriots, but also Turkey, The Junta, England, America, the UN...I don't think anyone will ever know the full truth behind it, but one way of trying to understand it is to stick to ‘hard facts’ as much as possible, and try and look at the whole picture….
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Postby karma » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:46 am

the problem is people who think like natty,me, t_c and few others are very few...and since we r not Che Guevara..we r only wasting our times :(
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:46 am

karma wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:
karma wrote:since Makarios was a priest then plz dont expect him to be pure and good person...
why on earth a priest shld involve politics..isnt it a shame?? it is not heir business at all..
i hate all imams and priests


I dont karmacigim! I think a horror film should be made about him...


loooll, wht about exorcist?


:lol: Yeah something like that, where Makarios paves the way for the devil incarnate to reign in 2007!

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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:50 am

Natty wrote:Hi Turkish Cypriot, those pictures are very sad..:(

Horrible crimes were indeed committed against innocent Turkish Cypriots, the events in Tochni and other Turkish Cypriot villages for example (Only the other day my Grandmother was saying how her father was in tears after he heard what happened in the village of Aloa and others nearby. He was friends with many of the people who lived in those villages, and he couldn't believe that anybody could do such a thing a thing, especially to innocent women and children...). No one is denying that massacres of Turkish Cypriots happened, and that those people that committed those crimes were criminals through and through, but what angers people is when a one sided and many times over exaggerated (The claims of a genocide for example) are put forward as the only fact of the Cyprus problem, when evidence shows otherwise...It doesn't really honour all the others who suffered, the Greek Cypriots, the Armenian Cypriots, the Maronite Cypriots, the Latin Cypriots, etc...

The Cyprus problem is so complicated, it doesn't just involve us Cypriots, but also Turkey, The Junta, England, America, the UN...I don't think anyone will ever know the full truth behind it, but one way of trying to understand it is to stick to ‘hard facts’ as much as possible, and try and look at the whole picture….



Good post Natty! I undestand completely where you're coming from there and the reasoning behind it. It's always the ladies who make sense in here! :D
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