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Postby zan » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:11 pm

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Your illegalities Piratis are to form a government without us.


And what we were supposed to do, live in anarchy? Didn't we ask you about a ton of times to end the illegalities and the occupation and return to your position in RoC? You are the ones rejecting this because you want partition and you will blame us on top of it?

It is ridiculous to compare RoC with the pseudo state which was created illegally by ethnically cleansing 200.000 people from their homes and declaring that area as a "Turkish Republic" when in fact the legal population of even that area is Greek Cypriot in its vast majority. Maybe the Turks were used to such kind of things, but now is the 21st century. You can not create a state by means of ethnic cleansing.

Take your so-called legality while you can because the same people are looking to make up for their mistake.


And what was their mistake? Declaring a state that was created by means of ethnic cleansing and foreign occupation as illegal? Or saying that the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, which a UN member, should be respected?




No by declaring a state that killed its own people and ended up in the mess it is today. That statement is the political status only because your lies have given you the opportunity to prosper in terms of money and property while we held on to GC property up until your OXI on the Annan plan. We sat there in anarchy or more precisely army rule while we waited for you to come around the table and talk sense but you instead chose to try and bulldoze your way through the talks and turn back time to before you made your great big cock up. You are still playing the same game today. You argue that the 1960 constitution was not fare and then you say we did not want to return to it. How many more versions of what you want are you going to come up with. First you agree with what Makarios did to ignore the constitution and the vetos and then you want to return to it. How the hell are we supposed to trust anything you say when nothing you say is the same twice.
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:50 pm

1960 constetution was ajoke of all jokes on the political stage and its a joke today we should get rid of zurich agreement and start from scratch and get rid of turkish and greek flags and national anthems then we might just have a new begining but untill these are in cyprus and untill we get rid of books that are printed in turkey and greece then cyprus will never see freedom it will always be a slave to turkey and greece
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Postby Strahd » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:54 pm

humanist wrote:Yes of-course Sotos, Why else. But mainly as I read that a Turkish speaking Cypriot athlete will be representing Cyprus and I believe it would be nice to have an anthem that does not speak exclussively of being Greek.:) :) :)


If the TC wins a gold medal, the national anthem played would e the turkish as per our countries constitution
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Postby zan » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:55 pm

free_cyprus wrote:1960 constetution was ajoke of all jokes on the political stage and its a joke today we should get rid of zurich agreement and start from scratch and get rid of turkish and greek flags and national anthems then we might just have a new begining but untill these are in cyprus and untill we get rid of books that are printed in turkey and greece then cyprus will never see freedom it will always be a slave to turkey and greece


No constitution is workable unless there is a willingness to make it work.
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:03 pm

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what part of that constetution is workable can i ask you that ???????????????? maybe you havetn read it or maybe you read it but you did not understand it or maybe you did not read between the lines.................. tell me waht part of that fecking shit peace of paper benefits the cypriot people can you tell em that and also can you tell me one single person from cyprus that actualy had a say in that 1960 agreement????????????
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Postby zan » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:07 pm

free_cyprus wrote:zan
what part of that constetution is workable can i ask you that ???????????????? maybe you havetn read it or maybe you read it but you did not understand it or maybe you did not read between the lines.................. tell me waht part of that fecking shit peace of paper benefits the cypriot people can you tell em that and also can you tell me one single person from cyprus that actualy had a say in that 1960 agreement????????????


I cannot lie...I have not read it because I see no point in reading something that is dead. The whole point was that it gave us a republic to do with as we pleased. We could have changed every word of it if it was done in the right way. It so happens that our First president had other ideas rather than working for ALL the Cypriot people.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:31 pm

No by declaring a state that killed its own people and ended up in the mess it is today.


You were part of state as well and you killed the same amount of people. Don't pretent to be just the victim.


That statement is the political status only because your lies have given you the opportunity to prosper in terms of money and property while we held on to GC property up until your OXI on the Annan plan.


And why did you "held on GC property"? Who gave you that right? We prospered because we know how to create things, unlike you who are used to just take what others created (and ruin it)



You are still playing the same game today. You argue that the 1960 constitution was not fare and then you say we did not want to return to it. How many more versions of what you want are you going to come up with. First you agree with what Makarios did to ignore the constitution and the vetos and then you want to return to it. How the hell are we supposed to trust anything you say when nothing you say is the same twice.


What I say is always the same. The 1960 agreements were forced on us by the Turks and the British, but still they are the only legal thing that exist since we (and you) signed them. If those agreements should change they should change to something better not something even worst for us.
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Postby zan » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:50 pm

Piratis wrote:
No by declaring a state that killed its own people and ended up in the mess it is today.


You were part of state as well and you killed the same amount of people. Don't pretent to be just the victim.


That statement is the political status only because your lies have given you the opportunity to prosper in terms of money and property while we held on to GC property up until your OXI on the Annan plan.


And why did you "held on GC property"? Who gave you that right? We prospered because we know how to create things, unlike you who are used to just take what others created (and ruin it)



You are still playing the same game today. You argue that the 1960 constitution was not fare and then you say we did not want to return to it. How many more versions of what you want are you going to come up with. First you agree with what Makarios did to ignore the constitution and the vetos and then you want to return to it. How the hell are we supposed to trust anything you say when nothing you say is the same twice.


What I say is always the same. The 1960 agreements were forced on us by the Turks and the British, but still they are the only legal thing that exist since we (and you) signed them. If those agreements should change they should change to something better not something even worst for us.[/quote]


First of all you can take those two comments in red and rethink the "who is claiming to be the victim shit".

Well the Olive colored comment is just about as stupid as it gets. You keep us in chains for nearly half a century and then you say you did better because you are better than us. Am I to presume that you are a millionaire and part of that success or are you just one of those that claim other peoples success as your own. :roll:
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Postby Piratis » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:01 pm

What happened to you is due to your insistence on illegalities. You can't just go and ethnically cleanse 200.000 people and then pretend that everything is fine. What century do you think we live in? The 15th?
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:14 pm

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i implore you to find the zurich agreement on the net and read it carefully and you will understnd what im talking about
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