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Piratis
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How is this relevant T_C?

It was supposed to be a joke

Piratis
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[Get Real!]

Piratis
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Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 6066

How is this relevant T_C?

It was supposed to be a joke

Piratis
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Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 6066 <---:twisted:

Oh, I see... btw both you and I recently passed the dreaded 666 and didn't realise it!

[Piratis]

What I say is that everybody gets the 100% of his human, legal and democratic rights. Do you agree?

Of course I do, I always have. The problem is that you say it but keep defending your illegalities, crimes, theft and hijacking as it suits you and shamelesly blame the innocent Turks. So stating that

everybody gets the 100% of his human, legal and democratic rights

every time this issue comes up and actually meaning it is apparently different things for you.

Maybe you are right, and the meaning of human rights, democracy, and international law is different between the Turks and the civilized world. This is what you want to say?

For example I say that the "trnc" is illegal, I guess you disagree, right?

[Murataga]

Maybe you are right, and the meaning of human rights, democracy, and international law is different between the Turks and the civilized world. This is what you want to say?

No. It is actually universal but subject to hypocracy for individuals like you and politics for countries that have to watch for their national interests. Can you deny this?

[DT.]

Maybe you are right, and the meaning of human rights, democracy, and international law is different between the Turks and the civilized world. This is what you want to say?

No. It is actually universal but subject to hypocracy for individuals like you and politics for countries that have to watch for their national interests. Can you deny this?

lets start with this one. Everyone agree?
Article 17.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property

[Piratis]

Maybe you are right, and the meaning of human rights, democracy, and international law is different between the Turks and the civilized world. This is what you want to say?

No. It is actually universal but subject to hypocracy for individuals like you and politics for countries that have to watch for their national interests. Can you deny this?

So it is universal minus the whole world. Something like that?

What I support for Cyprus is no different that what it exists in all other democratic countries in the world. I didn't write what the human rights are (http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html) and I didn't write what democracy is (http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/w ... hatdm2.htm) and I didn't difine the international laws that say that the only legal state in Cyprus is Republic of Cyprus and that the so called "trnc" is illegal.

So stop hiding behind your finger. We know very well who you are and what you support. So don't try to bullshit us that there is a human rights version that can allow you to perform ethnic cleansing and occupy our lands. Such things exist only in your twisted mind.

[zan]

What I say is that everybody gets the 100% of his human, legal and democratic rights. Do you agree?

Of course I do, I always have. The problem is that you say it but keep defending your illegalities, crimes, theft and hijacking as it suits you and shamelesly blame the innocent Turks. So stating that

everybody gets the 100% of his human, legal and democratic rights

every time this issue comes up and actually meaning it is apparently different things for you.

Maybe you are right, and the meaning of human rights, democracy, and international law is different between the Turks and the civilized world. This is what you want to say?

For example I say that the "trnc" is illegal, I guess you disagree, right?

Is it illegal for Turkey to recognise the TRNC and not recognise the roc. I don't think so. It is just a matter of which side of the fence you are standing on. You guys have done a wonderful job of making your illegalities acceptable and it is just a matter of time for us to gain more recognition from other states. Will you accept our state if just one more independent country recognises us............................I will not hazard an answer.

[Piratis]

What are our "illegalities" zan? Tell me. And answer this question also: Do you agree for all illegalities to end?

[zan]

What are our "illegalities" zan? Tell me. And answer this question also: Do you agree for all illegalities to end?

. Your illegalities Piratis are to form a government without us. One minute you want the 1960 constitution and the next you disregard it as Makarios did. You have not just your figure in more pies than you can eat but you are constantly sticking your foot in it also. Just like Denktas said all those years ago, the RoC is illegal unless we call off the 1960 constitution and then that would also make the TRNC/KKTC legal as well. You can’t have it both ways. I realise that you have the so called legal backing of the EU and others but there has been more than one of them that has said they made a big mistake. Take your so-called legality while you can because the same people are looking to make up for their mistake.

[Piratis]

Your illegalities Piratis are to form a government without us.

And what we were supposed to do, live in anarchy? Didn't we ask you about a ton of times to end the illegalities and the occupation and return to your position in RoC? You are the ones rejecting this because you want partition and you will blame us on top of it?

It is ridiculous to compare RoC with the pseudo state which was created illegally by ethnically cleansing 200.000 people from their homes and declaring that area as a "Turkish Republic" when in fact the legal population of even that area is Greek Cypriot in its vast majority. Maybe the Turks were used to such kind of things, but now is the 21st century. You can not create a state by means of ethnic cleansing.

Take your so-called legality while you can because the same people are looking to make up for their mistake.

And what was their mistake? Declaring a state that was created by means of ethnic cleansing and foreign occupation as illegal? Or saying that the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, which a UN member, should be respected?