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[iceman]

Who are we taking for a ride?
By Loucas Charalambous

IN LAST Sunday’s column, I referred to the proposals by the Greek Cypriot side, made in the framework of the July 8 agreement, and argued that the main political objective of our leadership was to use this procedure in order to preserve the status quo.
The fact that these absurd proposals, aimed at turning the Cyprus talks 40 years back, have prompted very little comment by media pundits is proof that they are party to the political game being played by our leadership, whose only concern is to stay in power, not caring that every day that passes brings partition closer. The policy of ‘staying as we are’ is being openly promoted nowadays.

President Papadopoulos has no qualms talking about his objective to representatives of organised groups that visit him at his office. This is how he explains his wise policy to his guests – because under present conditions, there can be no settlement that would be better that the current situation, it is preferable to stay as we are.

It is therefore no coincidence that the documents submitted by the president’s aide Tasos Tzionis for discussion by the working groups, as envisaged by the July 8 agreement, included 93 chapters, some of which were broken down into sub-chapters as well. The more these chapters – and the more complicated – the more time-consuming will be the negotiations.

It is interesting to note the slapdash way in which these 93 chapters have been drafted. Not even the most open-minded person could have accepted that they were written with the aim of being discussed within the framework of a serious procedure. I would bet that the person who drafted these did not spend more than an hour or two putting them together. The proposals are so badly written and incoherent that only a fool would have believed that nine months were needed to draft them.

In my last column, I referred to the ludicrous chapter which included the heading “creation of federal national parks (status and administration)” to give an idea of the seriousness of the proposals submitted by Tzionis. I thought I would refer to another of the chapters today, as it perfectly illustrates our bad faith and our transparent craftiness.
The second chapter for the working group dealing with the territorial issue is on the following: “Suspension (moratorium) of the development of properties and of transactions (such as sale, rental, mortgaging, advertising etc) involving refugee properties.” This was the topic that created the strongest reaction by the Turkish Cypriots. The craftiness behind this position is blatantly clear – as soon as the working groups commence, we would ask for the use of Greek Cypriot-owned properties to be stopped. If the Turks agree, they would leave all the land that had not already been built on, and we will be taking them for a ride indefinitely at the working groups. In the meantime, they could build their houses in the sea.

Common sense dictates that, because most Turkish Cypriot property is in the south, the issue of properties could only be resolved in an overall settlement. No sensible person could expect the construction of houses in the north to stop until we find the desire to solve the Cyprus problem. The Turkish Cypriots are going to carry on building and using Greek Cypriot properties for as long as the island remains divided.

This provision is based on an assumption our leaders always make – that they are the cleverest people in the world and everyone else is stupid. This is why even our friends of yesterday in Europe do not bother taking us seriously any more. This is why even the diplomats representing friendly Arab states tell us: “Your problem is your president.”

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[free_cyprus]

listen first of all the leaders of cyprus say what they are told to say by greece and turkey its simple as that.....................do you think any of the so called president elect in cyprus cares trully about cypriots and how we can have our island back ......................they are interested in goint to the united crooks in new york they stay in five star hotels they fuck top class whores drink champane and they come back and tell cyprus they couldnt work out a deal ....................this is the reality of the situation oopppsssssssssssssssss i almost forgot they dont even come back to cyprus one goes to turkey and the other to athens.............. before they even come to cyprus what a jokers

[cyfo]

grant patriotism they have been curse (katara ) for Cyprus

[Murataga]

My word is to those who stamp people that think different from them in the Cyprus conlict as a criminal or a traitor: Unless you start opening up your minds to criticism and think outside the propaganda box you are stuck in, you are bound to suffer and drown in hatred. If you insist to go on like this, sooner or later the hard facts will hit you like a train on full speed. Unfortunately, we have such people on our side aswell. I pitty them.

[elko]

Iceman,
Bad boy, are you trying to upset the idiots here again? Papadop is a saint compared to some of those lecturing people here.
ismet

[miltiades]

My word is to those who stamp people that think different from them in the Cyprus conlict as a criminal or a traitor: Unless you start opening up your minds to criticism and think outside the propaganda box you are stuck in, you are bound to suffer and drown in hatred. If you insist to go on like this, sooner or later the hard facts will hit you like a train on full speed. Unfortunately, we have such people on our side aswell. I pitty them.

Absolutely correct Murataga .We can not simply label an individual as a "traitor " for having conflicting views to the accepted norm. I do not know much about Loukas , but his comments are refreshingly honest and expressed in a democratic society that confers upon all it's citizens that wonderful gift of free expression.

[Bananiot]

Absolutely Miltiades. We however do not pocess the political culture to accept a view that is different from ours despite the fact that in the past we paid dearly for this.

[Kifeas]

Just ignore the above mentioned joker! He is an eccentric extremist and a loser that no one takes seriously within the GC society.

[Bananiot]

Loucas Charalambous is a moderate and he has supported (with his pen) the moderate forces of reason within the Turkish Cypriot society. This might make him dangerous for an extremist, like Papadopoulos or Denktash. The latter has publicly thanked Papadopoulos for his role in 2004 and has stated in an interview only yesterday in "Politis" that as long as Papadopoulos is the leader of the Greek Cypriots the Turkish Cypriots have nothing to fear.

[Kifeas]

Loucas Charalambous is a moderate and he has supported (with his pen) the moderate forces of reason within the Turkish Cypriot society. This might make him dangerous for an extremist, like Papadopoulos or Denktash. The latter has publicly thanked Papadopoulos for his role in 2004 and has stated in an interview only yesterday in "Politis" that as long as Papadopoulos is the leader of the Greek Cypriots the Turkish Cypriots have nothing to fear.

Therefore, in trusting Denktash's judgment, you naturally also agree with his assessment that with the Annan plan, within 5-10 years the TCs would have been in the ....GCs' pocket. Therefore, the reason you voted in favor of the Annan plan, is because you wanted to place the TCs in the GCs' pocket, and the reason you continue crying for the Annan plan, is because you missed the opportunity to have the TCs in our pocket. It is always good to know!