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by **joe** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:28 pm

http://www.eveningecho.ie/news/bstory.a ... n=14128896

Turkish Christians in new torture fear following murders

20/04/2007 - 10:11:36 AM

Christians in Turkey have today expressed fear that growing nationalism and intolerance could lead to more violence against them.

The recent murder of three Christians in the eastern Turkey town of Malatya has highlighted Turkey's uneasy relationship with its minorities.

Police detained five more suspects yesterday in the attack at a Christian publishing house that distributes bibles.

Some reportedly said they carried out the killings to protect Islam.

The three victims - a German man and two Turks who converted to Christianity - were found a day earlier with their hands and legs tied and their throats slit.

Their faces were bruised, and the ropes had cut into their wrists.

Today, the Hurriyet newspaper reported that at least one victim was stabbed many times.

"There were so many stab wounds that we couldn't count them," Hurriyet quoted Dr Murat Ugras as saying.

"It was clearly torture."

Christian leaders said they worried that nationalists were stoking hostilities against non-Turks and non-Muslims by exploiting growing uncertainty over Turkey's place in the world.

by **the_snake_and_the_crane** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:33 pm

Read about this the other day. When are Turks here going to admit that there is a rise in ultra nationalism in Turkey. Until they admit to it - it wont begin to decrease,

by **cypezokyli** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:42 pm

they have elections now. noone can afford to appear less nationalist than the rest :wink:

by **Get Real!** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:42 pm

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:Read about this the other day. When are Turks here going to admit that there is a rise in ultra nationalism in Turkey. Until they admit to it - it wont begin to decrease,

What the TC's admit to is not what is important but the fact that Turkey is moving in this direction.

by **karma** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:18 pm

Get Real! wrote:
the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:Read about this the other day. When are Turks here going to admit that there is a rise in ultra nationalism in Turkey. Until they admit to it - it wont begin to decrease,

What the TC's admit to is not what is important but the fact that Turkey is moving in this direction.

Coz hypocrite Christian Club EU did its best to drive Turkey in this direction...

by **the_snake_and_the_crane** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:05 pm

Coz hypocrite Christian Club EU did its best to drive Turkey in this direction...

BULLSHIT! You cant blame the EU for the over the top nationalism in Turkey that has been around for a long long time!

Do you expect the EU to let Turkey into their club so easily, when they break so many human rights laws? Turks have a serious arrogance problem and have to admit when they are in the wrong.

by **karma** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:08 pm

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
Coz hypocrite Christian Club EU did its best to drive Turkey in this direction...

BULLSHIT! You cant blame the EU for the over the top nationalism in Turkey that has been around for a long long time!

Do you expect the EU to let Turkey into their club so easily, when they break so many human rights laws? Turks have a serious arrogance problem and have to admit when they are in the wrong.

and Sarkozy is angel on earth :lol:

by **miltiades** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:50 pm

karma wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:Read about this the other day. When are Turks here going to admit that there is a rise in ultra nationalism in Turkey. Until they admit to it - it wont begin to decrease,

What the TC's admit to is not what is important but the fact that Turkey is moving in this direction.

Coz hypocrite Christian Club EU did its best to drive Turkey in this direction...

Karma , I see you haven't taken up my advice and that is why you made this rather stupid statement . Now girl get your self a glass of red vino and drink to the continued success of the EU , while you are at it raise your glass and thank your lucky stars you weren't born in some third world medieval country . Cheers !!

by **karma** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:00 pm

miltiades wrote:
karma wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:Read about this the other day. When are Turks here going to admit that there is a rise in ultra nationalism in Turkey. Until they admit to it - it wont begin to decrease,

What the TC's admit to is not what is important but the fact that Turkey is moving in this direction.

Coz hypocrite Christian Club EU did its best to drive Turkey in this direction...

Karma , I see you haven't taken up my advice and that is why you made this rather stupid statement . Now girl get your self a glass of red vino and drink to the continued success of the EU , while you are at it raise your glass and thank your lucky stars you weren't born in some third world medieval country . Cheers !!

looll, red wine is always there Miltiades, no need to remind me but still thx..
But I suggest every1 in the forum not to make comments for the countries they have never visited..
I m not trying to say Turkey is perfect, ofcourse she is not ready to join the EU yet...but on the other hand I dont think EU is treating her decently..
so many double standarts, everyday a new racist comment by France or Germany or Austria...then why all these games?? if they really dont want Turkey then let them be honest...and say it clearly.....
I believe EU is a racist, imperialist, christian club which drives Turkey day by day towards Islam, instead of helping her...so they had better not nag anymore...and get ready slow by slow to enjoy The Islamic Republic of Turkey..

by **the_snake_and_the_crane** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:36 pm

Turkey needs to admit when its wrong and help its self. That way it gives the EU less of an excuse to exclude them. Right now the EU has thousands of legit excuses.

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