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[RichardB]

No Niki the only persons who live off base and pay a cypriot Landlord rent are those who make the decision to move out of 'barracks' and rent a place 'off their own back' and then they take their chances like the rest of us in the real world

Please dont get me wrong I am British living 30% of the year n Cyprus but the subject of Rent to the Bases from the Brit Gov really gets my Goat up!!

[Niki]

The British have actually supported the Cypriot community well.

yeah sat on their asses and allowed turkey to ethnically cleanse 200,000 people. and on top of that they want to carve and secure, with more pluses, what they got via the annan plan for ever so the question never again surfaces.

some guarantor, friendly country. with friends like this who the hell needs enemies.

I can't argue with the fact that the pathetic British government did not get involved and in many ways allowed this to happen. Immoral and unforgiveable.

[dancingbear]

Niki, dont let them get you down, the bases will be staying for quite a while yet. Also would it be fair to say that if the Base on the eastern Side was not an SBA then Turkey would have completely cut off all the eastern side of the Island. Just a thought.
Bear

[askimwos]

The British have actually supported the Cypriot community well. The highest number of overseas students come from Cyprus and (Bulgaria I think). The UK gives opportunities in many ways.

What about the huge amount of EU money that has been invested into Cyprus into roads, hospitals etc? Everywhere you go there is a sign stating "financed with EU money". This never happens in the UK despite the fact the UK pays hundreds of thousands into the EU. We pay so much tax to finance this it encourages 500 British people per day to leave the country to live in another country. We are all paying for EU subsidising.

Nothing to do with the bases I know but "the British" seem to be criticised so much and they are far fom perfect but there is also good that comes out of the dubious relationship between Cyprus and the UK.

Niki, the last time I checked the Cypriot students were paying fees when studying in the UK. Not to mention all the money they spent when there. There are more than 6000 students in the UK at any given time. These are far more than the British servicemen in the bases. Guess which group spend more!

As for the British funding EU projects in Cyprus, I suggest you do your seaching elsewere as Cyprus is also a net contributor to the EU. This means that Cyprus pays more to the EU than what it gets, the same as the UK.
I also suggest you do your research about hoe much the UK pays in the EU as the iron granny (Thatcher) achieved the infamous rebate.

Actually the UK is the 9th biggest net contributor to the EU (per capita) with Cyprus at the 8th place. In other words Cypriots pay more per capita than the British.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4721307.stm

Another issue is whether the bases are actually sovereign. Have you ever heard of a sovereign entity without airspace or waters?

[askimwos]

Niki, dont let them get you down, the bases will be staying for quite a while yet. Also would it be fair to say that if the Base on the eastern Side was not an SBA then Turkey would have completely cut off all the eastern side of the Island. Just a thought.
Bear

The last time I checked the british were quarantors of cyprus sovereignty. Would it be fare to say thet the British instead of just saving their arses in 1974, did something to honour their signature on the treaty of guarantee? Just a thought!

[villawagen]

Niki, dont let them get you down, the bases will be staying for quite a while yet. Also would it be fair to say that if the Base on the eastern Side was not an SBA then Turkey would have completely cut off all the eastern side of the Island. Just a thought.
Bear

The last time I checked the british were quarantors of cyprus sovereignty. Would it be fare to say thet the British instead of just saving their arses in 1974, did something to honour their signature on the treaty of guarantee? Just a thought!

what did the british need to save there arse from in 1974 ??

[askimwos]

Niki, dont let them get you down, the bases will be staying for quite a while yet. Also would it be fair to say that if the Base on the eastern Side was not an SBA then Turkey would have completely cut off all the eastern side of the Island. Just a thought.
Bear

The last time I checked the british were quarantors of cyprus sovereignty. Would it be fare to say thet the British instead of just saving their arses in 1974, did something to honour their signature on the treaty of guarantee? Just a thought!

what did the british need to save there arse from in 1974 ??

I suggest you do some reading. In 1974 the only thing that the British did was to threatened Turkey not to try to capture Nicosia airport. I suggest you do some reseach on the correspondence between the Ecevit and the British priminister at the time of the invation. Bare in mind that at the time part of the Nicosia airport was used by the British military.

[villawagen]

Niki, dont let them get you down, the bases will be staying for quite a while yet. Also would it be fair to say that if the Base on the eastern Side was not an SBA then Turkey would have completely cut off all the eastern side of the Island. Just a thought.
Bear

The last time I checked the british were quarantors of cyprus sovereignty. Would it be fare to say thet the British instead of just saving their arses in 1974, did something to honour their signature on the treaty of guarantee? Just a thought!

what did the british need to save there arse from in 1974 ??

I suggest you do some reading. In 1974 the only thing that the British did was to threatened Turkey not to try to capture Nicosia airport. I suggest you do some reseach on the correspondence between the Ecevit and the Brirish peiminister at the time of the invation. Bare in mind that at the time part of the Nicosia airport was used by the British military.

what they did was to do nothing !!!!!! hung you all out to dry, everyone knows that !!!!!
they did not need to save there own arse !!!!!!!

[sweetie pie]

whats the problem with the bases in Cyprus anyway ?? its not like they are any kind of burden on the Cyprus people !!! on the contrary they sustain and support the lifestyle of thousands of Cypriots, who live and work within the infrastructure of those bases.
whoever would want the removal of the bases would have to be a complete mentalist, to subject Cyprus to such an economic catastrophe that would be caused by such an action.
Britain has very large us bases in the UK, do you think the British would like the removal of those bases ???? erm let me think ?? no they bloody wouldn't coz they pump millions of dollars in the community.

free Cyprus open your eyes dude, no Cypriot government is ever going to want the British bases removed :wink

Seriously though look what happened in Malta when they kicked the British Forces out. The infrastructure of Malta took quite a bashing with so many Maltese out of a job. The hospitals which were supported by the bases almost collapsed through lack of funds and staff and the whole economy went into dive mode

[askimwos]

Niki, dont let them get you down, the bases will be staying for quite a while yet. Also would it be fair to say that if the Base on the eastern Side was not an SBA then Turkey would have completely cut off all the eastern side of the Island. Just a thought.
Bear

The last time I checked the british were quarantors of cyprus sovereignty. Would it be fare to say thet the British instead of just saving their arses in 1974, did something to honour their signature on the treaty of guarantee? Just a thought!

what did the british need to save there arse from in 1974 ??

I suggest you do some reading. In 1974 the only thing that the British did was to threatened Turkey not to try to capture Nicosia airport. I suggest you do some reseach on the correspondence between the Ecevit and the Brirish peiminister at the time of the invation. Bare in mind that at the time part of the Nicosia airport was used by the British military.

what they did was to do nothing !!!!!! hung you all out to dry, everyone knows that !!!!!
they did not need to save there own arse !!!!!!!

maybe you are right, afterall they allowed the turkish invation and did nothing to stop it as they were obliged by the Treaty of Guarantee. However, they are more than keen to safeguard another treaty that suits their imperialist goals, that is the Treaty regarding the british bases. Well they seem to have forgotten the part that says they have to pay rent! Very british, don't you think? i.e. We safeguard what suits us and don't give a shit about our obligations.