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Postby GorillaGal » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:17 pm

devil wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:answers to your questions are 1. YES,
and 1. YES. it's not over yet, but the answer is YES, it was a success....


So you are saying that the so-called war on terror has not caused any harm in Afghanistan? That the thousands of people who have been killed and maimed by the US-led intervention would still have required medical help for their injuries? Get real, GG.

And where is the success? As far as is known, Osama is still alive and kicking, while al Qaeda is, by far, more active and belligerent in more parts of the world than it was before the present Administration took office. Success? You're wearing glasses that have been rose-tinted by the propaganda emanating from your war-machine. All the US intervention has done is to make things worse for those living outside the USA.


Devil! My what a devil you are, too! :D of course the was has caused harm. but the point of this thread is of the good we do as well. often the good stuff gets overlooked by all the bad stuff that is happeneing in the world.

the sucess is still coming.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:47 pm

once again: we do NOT hate the american people nor america. personally i do admire many thinks about america. i also have a number of american friends and most of them are as critical on their goverment as i am.

problem is the foreign policy the US follows. especially since bush is governing things have gone extremely bad for the world. onee has to be blind not to see that. the most clever of those who once supported bushs foreign policy are already abandoning the sinking boat.

so long this goverment continues to reign the way it does we will continue critisizing - NOT hating.
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Postby GorillaGal » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:51 pm

you are speaking for yourself, cypezokyli. there are plenty on this board who hate the Americans. i have seen the hatred and the jealousy.
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:55 pm

I don't think anyone who lives in America can understand the reason why people dislike the USA and it's government so much. I suppose those in America are brainwashed by propaganda so they don't see the whole picture like we do everywhere else. People there are given excuses and they know no different. Can't blame the people, thats why we blame the government. :wink:

Anyways this ones for you GG: Image
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Postby villawagen » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:17 pm

to be honest, i don't have any problems with America or its citizens. the British have this sort of relationship that goes way back, and ties us in with them, in a sort of no questions asked we will stand by each other come hell or high water, sort of way :shock: .
i really liked Bill Clinton even if he was a womanizer and a liar
its just the way it is !!!!! however i really do think George Bush is a knob end :wink:
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Postby GorillaGal » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:52 pm

villa, i agree, Bush is a "knob end" and i too liked Bill Clinton.
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Postby sweetie pie » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:53 pm

villawagen wrote:to be honest, i don't have any problems with America or its citizens. the British have this sort of relationship that goes way back, and ties us in with them, in a sort of no questions asked we will stand by each other come hell or high water, sort of way :shock: .
i really liked Bill Clinton even if he was a womanizer and a liar
its just the way it is !!!!! however i really do think George Bush is a knob end :wink:


I don't hate the Americans just some of the things they do. If the Brits think the Americans have always been their mates and supported them they are one off.

When the Brits went into Suez with the French wasn't it the Americans who started to sell off Sterling and almost bankrupt the UK? Just to make them toe their line?

Its the spin they put on things that annoys me. They always have to be the good guys and the saviours of everyone. Even in their films they alter facts to make themselves look better. That it was they who found the enigma code in the last war was just one small example. Their are other examples.

Most Americans have a simplistic view of the world as most haven't been further than their own backyard and a ginormous percentage do not even have passports. Having said that the USA is so large that you do not have to leave the country to find everything you need.

I have always found them as a people when I have visited the states warm and friendly and extremely generous by and large but terribly gung ho and quick to pull the trigger hence the amount of blue on blue casualties (funny its never the Brits killing the Americans)?

One of my best mates is American and she actually agrees with me!!

Now Gorilla girl don't get your knickers in a twist. I know the Americans do some good in the world. Most wealthy western countries do.
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Postby GorillaGal » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:56 pm

sweetie Pie,
that is all i wanted to point out in this thread. The USA does good things, as well as some bad. all i want is some credit for the good stuff. we're a big country, of course we have alot of problems, make alot of mistakes, and if we are looking out for our intrests, well--so be it....who wouldn't??? Just give the USA a break!!!
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Postby andri_cy » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:44 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:I don't think anyone who lives in America can understand the reason why people dislike the USA and it's government so much. I suppose those in America are brainwashed by propaganda so they don't see the whole picture like we do everywhere else. People there are given excuses and they know no different. Can't blame the people, thats why we blame the government. :wink:

Anyways this ones for you GG: Image

I live in America, and I understand perfectly well why people dislike the USA.
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Postby Simon » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:59 am

andri when did you become a moderator? You on the payroll now :lol: :lol: :lol:
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