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Re: give the USA a break!

Postby Sotos » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:52 am

lev wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:to those of you who hate the Americans...

Is anyone here hate Americans? :shock:


We just hate what they do sometimes but recently with Bush those times became more :(
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Postby lev » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:01 am

Really? I didn't notice that at all. My fault, I'll know.

Do you have enough hate for a/the nation?
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Postby humanist » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:04 am

Miltiades said
Humanist , the USA is the greatest super power ever , should China replace the USA in the future then God help the world. America put a stop to communist expansion , just as it will now put and end to terrorist ambitions. The Iraq war could end tomorrow if only the savages that yesterday killed more than 100 innocents in a market , took their perverted heads out of their sick ideological environment and concentrated on bringing about peace and stability to their country. All superpowers historically looked after number one , I see nothing wrong in that ! I thank America for rebuilding Europe after WW2 , and I m grateful that it is now standing up to the sick individuals who want to take us back to the 7th century . For Crying out loud man , these barbarians , both in Iraq and Afghanistan are killing off barbers for daring to use a razor blade , some one has to stand up to this prehistoric perverted ideology



Mitliades I disagree with your comments, though I accept that they are your beliefs. As for communism well that it a concept to great for any of us to adhere too. Hence its failure, however the ideology behind it is one that I would support and value for myself. Yes I am anideologist and I do hope that one day we will all be living under this ideology at its fullest extend, which promotes human equality in alll domains of life. I still maintain that the US, Australia and Britian have no right telling another nation that it should have democracy as we see it. Having said that it is a dilussion to think that any of theree countries named have democracy as was inspired by the ancient greek philosophers.

For the person who osed the question why are ll the world waiting in line for american visas well there are nuts everywhere and if that is where they want to be let them I say., Tis the last place on erath I would want to be.
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Postby devil » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:44 pm

OK, an American doctor is helping people injured in Afghanistan. But, before you go saying that this proves the US is offering humanitarian aid to the Afghans, ask yourself two questions:
1. If the Americans had not invaded the country, would those people be requiring his aid?
2. The reason why the US went into the country and caused widespread suffering was to cut the feet from under al Qaeda and specifically Osama; have they succeeded in either mission or have they made things worse?

That having been said, I do not hate Americans; I have many close American friends and I have enjoyed visiting the USA on many occasions. However, I do hate the purely selfish, bellicose, imperialist outlook of, especially, the current Administration which has sown hatred throughout the world for no other reason than to protect their vested interests and to hell with everyone else (including Afghanis, Iraqis, N. Koreans, Iranians, Russians, sub-Saharan Africans, Palestinians, Cubans, Venezuelans, Colombians and many others, not forgetting Cypriots.)
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Postby greek.god » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:58 pm

humanist wrote:Miltiades said
Humanist , the USA is the greatest super power ever , should China replace the USA in the future then God help the world. America put a stop to communist expansion , just as it will now put and end to terrorist ambitions. The Iraq war could end tomorrow if only the savages that yesterday killed more than 100 innocents in a market , took their perverted heads out of their sick ideological environment and concentrated on bringing about peace and stability to their country. All superpowers historically looked after number one , I see nothing wrong in that ! I thank America for rebuilding Europe after WW2 , and I m grateful that it is now standing up to the sick individuals who want to take us back to the 7th century . For Crying out loud man , these barbarians , both in Iraq and Afghanistan are killing off barbers for daring to use a razor blade , some one has to stand up to this prehistoric perverted ideology



Mitliades I disagree with your comments, though I accept that they are your beliefs. As for communism well that it a concept to great for any of us to adhere too. Hence its failure, however the ideology behind it is one that I would support and value for myself. Yes I am anideologist and I do hope that one day we will all be living under this ideology at its fullest extend, which promotes human equality in alll domains of life. I still maintain that the US, Australia and Britian have no right telling another nation that it should have democracy as we see it. Having said that it is a dilussion to think that any of theree countries named have democracy as was inspired by the ancient greek philosophers.

For the person who osed the question why are ll the world waiting in line for american visas well there are nuts everywhere and if that is where they want to be let them I say., Tis the last place on erath I would want to be.


While I respect your opinion I wholeheartedly disagree with your premise "Communism was a concept too great for people to adhere to?" Are you kidding me. Communism repressed freedom, ideology, religious tolerance and killed millions. I suppose Stalin is a hero of yours?

Your idea of a crazy person is one who wants a better life for himself or his family in the land of opportunity. I bet you wouldn't last 2 days in North Korea under the government you so eloquently espouse.
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Postby GorillaGal » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:17 pm

devil wrote:OK, an American doctor is helping people injured in Afghanistan. But, before you go saying that this proves the US is offering humanitarian aid to the Afghans, ask yourself two questions:
1. If the Americans had not invaded the country, would those people be requiring his aid?
2. The reason why the US went into the country and caused widespread suffering was to cut the feet from under al Qaeda and specifically Osama; have they succeeded in either mission or have they made things worse?

That having been said, I do not hate Americans; I have many close American friends and I have enjoyed visiting the USA on many occasions. However, I do hate the purely selfish, bellicose, imperialist outlook of, especially, the current Administration which has sown hatred throughout the world for no other reason than to protect their vested interests and to hell with everyone else (including Afghanis, Iraqis, N. Koreans, Iranians, Russians, sub-Saharan Africans, Palestinians, Cubans, Venezuelans, Colombians and many others, not forgetting Cypriots.)

answers to your questions are 1. YES,
and 1. YES. it's not over yet, but the answer is YES, it was a success....
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Re: give the USA a break!

Postby GorillaGal » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:27 pm

lev wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:to those of you who hate the Americans...

Is anyone here hate Americans? :shock:


believe me, there are a few. probably more than a few.
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Re: give the USA a break!

Postby karma » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:35 pm

GorillaGal wrote:
lev wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:to those of you who hate the Americans...

Is anyone here hate Americans? :shock:


believe me, there are a few. probably more than a few.


not me Gorilla :wink: those few shld be sent to Guantanamo immediately :evil:
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Postby GorillaGal » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:45 pm

Karma my friend! you always cheer up my days!
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Postby devil » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:08 pm

GorillaGal wrote:answers to your questions are 1. YES,
and 1. YES. it's not over yet, but the answer is YES, it was a success....


So you are saying that the so-called war on terror has not caused any harm in Afghanistan? That the thousands of people who have been killed and maimed by the US-led intervention would still have required medical help for their injuries? Get real, GG.

And where is the success? As far as is known, Osama is still alive and kicking, while al Qaeda is, by far, more active and belligerent in more parts of the world than it was before the present Administration took office. Success? You're wearing glasses that have been rose-tinted by the propaganda emanating from your war-machine. All the US intervention has done is to make things worse for those living outside the USA.
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