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Postby askimwos » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:41 am

I don't believe that any Brit that bought property in the north was not aware of the political situation on the island or the dangers of buying a property that had no legal deeds.
The first thing that anybody that looks to buy a property abroad do is to find out as much as he/she can about the political situation, way of life, people of the particular country. Any suggestion that these people and in particular Brits did not know about the political situation in Cyprus is just lame excuses. For gods sake, they were buying a property and not a box of matches, they must have done their research. There is so much info on the net and the media about Cyprus that there is no way of somebody being kept in the dark.
The truth is that the people that bought properties in the north knew very well about what they were buying, about the political situation on the island and that there is no recognised country with the name "trnc" but still chose to buy because it was cheap. This is nothing different from buying a stolen watch from a thief just because the asking price is just a fraction of what it is actually worth.

So please no more excuses, these people are just part of the crime being committed and equaly guilty. Let the courts decide their fate.
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Postby RichardB » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:46 am

Well put askimwos

I agree 100% NO EXCUSES ARE ACCEPTABLE
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Postby Bill » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:11 pm

askimwos wrote:I don't believe that any Brit that bought property in the north was not aware of the political situation on the island or the dangers of buying a property that had no legal deeds.
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And I guess the developers and lawyers in the North certainly won't tell them.

As I've had a home in Cyprus for many years and it's well known amongst my work colleagues and friends ( I used to work for a very large nation wide company ) I've often been asked for advice about buying on the island or just to be told that they had bought there too.

It seems that most are unaware of any problem with the deeds in the occupied North and some are not even aware of any problem at all.

Whilst the problem may be foremost on the minds of most Greek or Turkish Cypriots it doesn't always follow that everybody in the rest of the world is also aware and up to speed on the problem.

I've often been asked about buying in the North as it's so much cheaper and you get more for your UK pound -- even though I've explained everything some people still went ahead and bought -- but the point is most of them hadn't got a clue :roll: .

What does shock me is the amount of folk that have bought from the various holiday homes exhibitions we see advertised regularly in the UK -- a lot with out ever having visited Cyprus :shock: .

They say a fool and his / her money are soon parted -- I feel this is a classic example .

You are quite correct -- careful research is needed before parting with your money sadly it seems most don't bother -- and then claim ignorance and that it wasn't their fault :?.

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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:29 pm

well most of them thought the worst that could happen to them in case of a solution would be to pay the legal owner the price of land.
Obviously they never thought that this does not stand legally in the EU, and that most propably they would lose everything.

But even if in some cases the legal owner accepts to be paid for the price of land, they will not want to hear the value of land is in most cases double than the money of the construction. :lol:
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Postby iceman » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:32 pm

askimwos wrote:So please no more excuses, these people are just part of the crime being committed and equaly guilty. Let the courts decide their fate.


Stop fooling yourselves,the courts can do jack shit to these people...The property issue will only be solved with a comprehensive UN solution.NOT through courts!!!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:48 pm

I disagree. No solution can even touch individuals property rights otherwise it will be trashed in the EU. It can only provide guidelines and assistance e.g a property committee that will assist exchange of properties between people who on their own free will (not because some others voted for it) will wish to do it.
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Postby iceman » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:05 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I disagree. No solution can even touch individuals property rights otherwise it will be trashed in the EU. It can only provide guidelines and assistance e.g a property committee that will assist exchange of properties between people who on their own free will (not because some others voted for it) will wish to do it.


I dont think EU is in a position to solve the problems we have,our problems are older than EU its self...UN holds the only key...(which brings the subject back to "Annan Plan" type UN solution)
Forget the European solutions you have been promised they will never happen..
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:44 pm

I am not talking about EU solving us the problem, I am talking for the specific property ownership right which is a fundamental right both for EU and the UN. Any solution that violates that right cannot stand !
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Postby paaul12 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:08 pm

Stop fooling yourselves,the courts can do jack shit to these people...The property issue will only be solved with a comprehensive UN solution.NOT through courts!!!


At last someone who knows what he is talking about :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby paaul12 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:13 pm

I am talking for the specific property ownership right which is a fundamental right both for EU and the UN. Any solution that violates that right cannot stand !


The fact is BOTH the UN and EU supported the Annan Plan, you lot didn’t, get over it. The Un & EU were happy with the ownership rights and obviously felt that the Annan solution didn’t violate any rights, otherwise they would not have supported it, why is it so very hard for you to get that little fact into your brain area, is it because there is something lacking up there?
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