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Postby Limassolean » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:09 pm

Question:

Do you agree that since just about all the nations on this planet referred to themselves as:

British from the name of the land they are occupy......Britain
Americans from the name America
French from the name France
Russians from the Russia
Hellenes from the word hellas.........and so forth..........

we....Cypriot People should be calling ourselves CYPRIOTS from the word CYPRUS. (the island)

Instead of... Turkish Cypriots or Greek Cypriots which refers to Turkey's and Greece's nationals living in Cyprus?

Constructive and civilised comments please!
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Postby T_C » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:42 pm

I agree to some extent but you have to bear in mind we have a lot of problems in Cyprus so it's not that easy. When we're unified we'll all eventually end up as "just" Cypriots. For the time being we're Cypriots of Turk and Greek origin. It's no big deal!

I find it really strange how people really think being "just" Cypriot will change everything. This won't solve no problems, it's just like trying to sweep it under the carpet. If we can't respect eachother for the simple fact that WE ARE of Turkish&Greek origin then what chance to we have of doing anything together as a unified island?

Whenever I tell people I'm from Cyprus, I get "Turkish or Greek side" as a response. The whole world knows us as TCs and GCs, this would be a very hard thing to change and a bloody shame to change for pretentious reasons. I love being Turkish and Cypriot at the same time. I wouldn't say "I'm Turkish" nor would I say "I'm Cypriot"....I AM A TURKISH CYPRIOT. Simple!

I really don't understand the big fuss over all of this. Why is it so important or necessary to try and push this way of thinking to people?

I'm happy being who I am, why aren't some of you?
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Postby Mickleham » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:54 pm

I respect your comments.

But..........

I am a Cypriot First. Greek second.

I live in Australia right now.......I am Australia first and Cypriot second

the Greeks and Spanish and even the Turks in America are American Turks

or English Turks or German Turks, or Croatian first and secondary Croatian Serbs.........

as far as respect of each other............

we have had a long history of each others respect in Cyprus up until the late 1950s............
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Postby T_C » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:23 pm

Ok I respects yours also.

Still, like I said before it doesn't bother me what I call myself so long as I get the point across that I am Cypriot AND Turkish. Weather it's Turkish Cypriot, Cypriot Turk, Turkic Cypriot, Turkish speaking Cypriot it really doesn't faze me to be honest.

If/When we're unified and all the dust settles then I will happily start to call myself a CYPRIOT.

The same way if/when we're unified I will stop calling North, TRNC. I can totally understand why GCs don't like it, but I was born there, its all I've ever known and if I don't belong there I don't feel like I belong anywhere in Cyprus. The RoC part for me is unfamiliar territory and we ARE divided so I don't feel like I can say "I'm from RoC and am just a Cypriot" while we have all these problems in our country.

When everything is sorted I will be proud to be Cypriot from the RoC, URoC, UCyR, Cypriot Republic or wherever. Till then I don't feel like pretending for the sake of it...also till the problems are sorted out calling ourselves "just Cypriots" wont make a bit of difference because no matter how you look at it, while we are divided we will ALWAYS be TCs and GCs.

The Cypriot thing will in the end come naturally...thats just my opinion though...:D
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Postby Mickleham » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:38 pm

Well i am happy that we both agreed. Even though i never look at things for only my own satisfaction...or on the basis that i do or do not like it.

RoC was given to us all (Cypriots) by the international community.
It is nothing to be ashamed of. you or me.
The Cyprus flag was design by a Cypriot Turk and adopted for so long as the Cypriot flag for this young nation with out any problems.


we need to get the message across to all the others.

We need to start some kind of a membership or association to pursue this cause to unify our country for all its people irrespective of

colour, religion, ethnicity, etc.

but with equality and respect and peace!
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Postby Simon » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:09 pm

Why are time and time again threads opened and debates started on this subject? It is getting very boring now. For f*cks sake, we are Greek and Turkish Cypriots! Get over it!!! I cannot understand why everybody thinks this is an issue or a big deal? It isn't. It is in our Constitution what we are. As I have said repeatedly, there are many more important issues to resolve if we are going to reunite. If each community can't even respect and recognise the other; and have to create this 'only Cypriot' tag; then we might as well forget about a lasting solution now. :roll:
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:07 pm

Limassolean
what abeautiful thread one of the best i have seen sooo far ..............................
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:26 pm

Simon
is your reply supposed to anger me or upset me lol ohhh dear if you think i have insluted everyone in the forum then let me clear a thing or two up here .................... fist of all i will tell everyone and i mean everyone in this forum who thinks they are turks or greeks becouse they speak the language and they shame us cypriots and they sell us to soo called mother lands who have fucked us over many times in history ................ then i say to you here and now and to those who think like you to go fuck yourself coprende amigo................. im a cypriot cyprus is my homeland and my motherland you wanna be greek or turkish then fuck offf and be one
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:39 pm

Simon
you speak of constetution of cyprus who the fuck drew up the constetution of cyprus can you tell me that what part of that fucking so called constetution is designed to benefit cyprus people can you also tell me that ............... and while we are on the subject it is that fucking contetution that has brought us to this state in cyprus by them labeling us turkish and greeks.................... the feckerssssssssss and you talk about sontetution ........... tell me one person from cyprus that was involved in frawing up that costetution that did not think he was turkish or greek ............................ and you write and tell me we are turks and greeks....... when we are just cypriots who have been fucked by everyone in history told what language to peak what riligion to take and all that shit
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Postby Simon » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:40 pm

Free Arsehole I think you miss one simple fact. I don't give a shit what you say and I'd imagine neither does 99% of Cypriots. You can tell me to go 'fuck off' anywhere? Do you think I'm going to listen? LOL. Cypriots feel close links to Greece and Turkey. Don't ask me, ask them! You are not going to change that. You chat absolute shit - simple. I cannot even begin to respond to your posts sensibly because there is no logic or reasoning in them. It is just the same old ramblings in every post. Your only language is insults; so I shall respond in your language. Not to upset you (lol) but so that we understand each other. GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU WANKER!!! I will not fuck off anywhere. Cyprus is my country. I am a Cypriot of Greek origin, as are 77% of Cypriots according to official figures. Oh but I forgot, you have told me I am not; so now that Free Arsehole The Great has spoken; let all Cypriots forget their language, religion, 3,200 years of history, culture etc etc because Free Arsehole has revealed to the world we have nothing to do with Greece and Turkey. This is the same Free Arsehole who DEMANDS THAT WE CUT ALL DIPLOMATIC TIES WITH THE COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH FOR A SOLUTION TO THE CYPRUS PROBLEM!! THE SAME FREE ARSEHOLE THAT TELLS US TO CUT ALL DIPLOMATIC TIES WITH BRITAIN AND GREECE; TWO COUNTRIES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CYPRIOT ECONOMY!! You talk absolute shit as I stated earlier. Go and crawl back into the hole you came out of.
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