Bananiot wrote:For a start, Charalambous is not a journalist but an economist. Secondly, yes, we have lost, from the moment we elected as our President a confirmed hard liner, anti solution patriarch, who in the course of his long political life has rejected all solutions proposed, since 1959. He even rejected the London Zurich agreements, only to confess a couple of years ago at Intercollege, that those agreements were a blessing in disguise. Nevertheless, he spent all his energy since 1960 trying to anull the agreements and did not hesitate to write up a Plan that promised to unhihilate anyone (the Turks) who might get in the way.
We have a President who is totally discredited outside Cyprus and makes vague efforts every now and again to galvanise friendships with backstage players of the likes of the Chinese ad the Russians! (By the way, can someone inform us as to what happened to the Chinese cannons which he so proudly told us that we bought at a price in excess of 60 million bananas?). We have a President who has managed within four years to deguildify Turkey and to reverse the opinion of the international community that now is convinced that we are the intransigent party. Oh yes, we indeed have lost out, because the President adheres to the Dountas dogma which states that we should wait for as long as it takes until the balance of power tilts in our favour and then liberate the occupied parts!!!
Kifeas has stated on a number of occasions that democratically elected officials should not be criticised. I suggest he opens the democracy book and read it from the beginning.
Bananiot, I find it very difficult and tiresome to endlessly argue with you on the set of ideas you and a number of people representing the same school of thought like yours, posses and preach. Like people of Nikiforos and Polis kind, who seat on the one extreme end of the spectrum, you and those sharing your views do seat on the other extreme of it.
You both (the two extreme sets of views) live in the past, and this is what makes you possess the ideas and express the views you do. They (those possessing and expressing the views of Nikiforos, Polis and others) still believe that we are in the 50’s and in the climate of the enosis movement. They are insecure nationalists of the worst kind who believe in the surrealistic and illogical view that a country and a people can only exist and function if they are based on purely nationalist characteristics and criteria; and who cannot digest the fact that Cyprus and its legitimate inhabitants are not constituted only by Greeks and therefore, there must be a common identity formula on the basis of which the future of this country can be contracted. Their deadlock approach leads them to the inability to conceptualize, produce and offer any meaningful and tangible ideas as to how we get out of the current mess, and they are left only with the option of bitching about the past and their idolized but “threatened” Greekness. They are losers seating on the one extreme, and they are expressed or represented by diluted marginal groups such as the EFEN, Chrysi Aygi and some other rightwing student or football club associated groups. They are the one extreme of our “political” spectrum.
The other extreme is constituted by insecure people like yourself, Loukas Charalampous (since this thread is devoted to him,) Fanourios (god bless him,) etc. You also live in the past. The past during which the big, the powerful and the mighty used to determine the faith and the future of the small (in size and numbers) people and countries! The past in which as long as one obeyed the will and the wishes of the big and the strong, he could only then hope to survive. Dignity for you is not significant. Because you know that such an approach is not acceptable in our times by the majority of people, as an argument, you take the pain to try and rationalize your views and approaches. You end up trying to prove that it was all our fault for whatever is happening today, that we have “lost the war” and thus we have to accept and take only whatever is offered to us, and even be happy for it; that those big and powerful ones that try to dictate solutions to our problem -only for the sake of their own interests, are in reality our best friends and therefore we should listen to them and follow their “advice;” and all the rest of rationalizations that you are trying to offer in order to justify your “political” choices. Because the current president is not one of your school of thought, neither he is of the other extreme school of thought that I have described earlier, and because despite all the slanders and mud-slinging against him, his popularity remains unshaken, you end up hating his guts and trying to twist and alter his true convictions and aims. You are the other extreme of our “political” spectrum.
They are masochists that begin from an intransigent, uncompromising and ill perceived (perverted) “nationalistic” approach; you are masochists that begin from a servile, defeatist and surrendering approach. They call it “national pride,” you call it “pro-peace!” No wonder the two schools or sets of thoughts found your selves exchanging slogans at each other in the Ledra Street the other day, and no wonder you both enjoy a marginal popularity among the Greek Cypriot society, ranging from 2-5% each. Because you are both extreme in your ideas a views! Because you are both the two extremes of the spectrum! Because you are both extremists and reactionaries!
The healthiness of someone’s very mind is determined by how far away his /her ideas and views are situated from the above two extreme sets of thoughts!
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