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[Kifeas]

....and now we have Lucas Charalambous who is a BAD boy because he writes the truth....

He writes the truth?

What is truthful and factual of all that he wrote in this last article of his? None of it is true and objective! It is a clear case of someone that has become so psychotic, so paranoid against Papadopoulos, that in his desire and aim to fight him with all means possible, he cannot see or does not care for the damage he inflicts upon his own country and people!

So pathetic!

[Pyrpolizer]

So maybe the leaders must at last wake up! AND LISTEN TO THESE JOURNALISTS! There were "libels" in the past in this Forum such as "Papadopoullos a Liar" and "Papadopoullos murdered his best Man to Marry His widow and her cash" but still NO LIBELS were filed even when the writer signed with his real name....

Aha so you 've been reading the forum before dropping in? Welcome to the forum then.
1)I don't know how libels on the internet are subject to any law, and what claims can be made. And I don't know how newspapers in the occupied are subject to any RoC law, I think they are not.

Nevertheless, you were very much angered by Loucas Charalambous opinion article as you call it. But doesnt he make a point? Nobody has answered that question yet in this post.... Just saying he is wrong is not enough... You might have to point out WHY you consider him wrong and unless I am stupid, I am not yet convinced that he is.... People will not just write for the sake of writing, would they? Please excuse my naiveness and elaborate.
Is it not more than obvious that Papadopoullos does nt want a solution to the Cyprus Problem? I am not saying that Talat wants a solution dont get me wrong, but arent they both enjoying their positions because of NO SOLUTION?

The matter of the Technical committees as you know is covered by secrecy from publicity as per UN demand. Most people are not in a position to judge whether LCs claims are right or wrong and to what extend.

I personally posed one single question from what I know so far. That the committees have not moved one inch. This is irrelevant to LCs claim that those committees are time consuming or not. WE DON'T KNOW THAT. It is just HIS claim. LC is obviously BYPASSING more substantial questions.I.e regardless of how time consuming or not those comittees might be why they have not moved ONE INCH. Would they have moved if they there was time limit? Would they have moved if there were less subjects? Would they have moved if there was only one chapter????WHY THEY HAVE NOT MOVED ONE INCH?????????

[PENPOINT]

What damage can his opinion create? Is he not right when he indicates that Papadopoullos does not wish to have a solution ever? People like Papadopoullos, accused for murdering his friend to marry his widow for money, money laundering for Slobodan Milosevitch, sliding secret deals for Oil in Cyprus, a miilionaire whose property value will diminish if there IS a solution, will never want any kind of solution.... Do you really believe that Papadopoullos cried because he is a patriot when he called for OXI in April 2004? Or because he felt that a YES would have diminished his own property?
And this Famagusta issue? did you see it? Please see my post for Famagusta...33 years late arent they? signatures for gods sake..if signatures would work other than for marketing, then the TCs would have managed direct flights to the North directly from Heathrow's Terminal 4!!!

[Get Real!]

What damage can his opinion create? Is he not right when he indicates that Papadopoullos does not wish to have a solution ever?

No, he is dead wrong. It all depends on the type of "solution".

Why are so many of you so short sighted?

It's like your arse is on fire and you want to jump into the first "lake" you see only to find that it was actually quick-sand!

[Kifeas]

What damage can his opinion create? Is he not right when he indicates that Papadopoullos does not wish to have a solution ever? People like Papadopoullos, accused for murdering his friend to marry his widow for money, money laundering for Slobodan Milosevitch, sliding secret deals for Oil in Cyprus, a miilionaire whose property value will diminish if there IS a solution, will never want any kind of solution.... Do you really believe that Papadopoullos cried because he is a patriot when he called for OXI in April 2004? Or because he felt that a YES would have diminished his own property?
And this Famagusta issue? did you see it? Please see my post for Famagusta...33 years late arent they? signatures for gods sake..if signatures would work other than for marketing, then the TCs would have managed direct flights to the North directly from Heathrow's Terminal 4!!!

PenPoint, for a moment I though you might be a serious interlocutor, and I thought that perhaps I should give it a try! Unfortunately, after reading all the above garbage, I see no point wasting my time and energy!

[Pyrpolizer]

@ Penpoint

So just because some idiot said the reason Papadopoulos said OXI was because his own immovable property will diminish in value is enough reason to believe he is right, no?

First of all have you asked how much property Papadopoulos owns in the occupied?? Have you asked how much the Leventis family (his wife) owns in the occupied? Have you asked how his own bussiness (from where he makes his millions) will be affected by a solution.
Secondly who told you the prices of immovable properties will drop after a solution? Even Vasilious study which accounted for huge pieces of GC to be lost land predicted that they would stabilise for a few years and then start rising again.

[PENPOINT]

What damage can his opinion create? Is he not right when he indicates that Papadopoullos does not wish to have a solution ever? People like Papadopoullos, accused for murdering his friend to marry his widow for money, money laundering for Slobodan Milosevitch, sliding secret deals for Oil in Cyprus, a miilionaire whose property value will diminish if there IS a solution, will never want any kind of solution.... Do you really believe that Papadopoullos cried because he is a patriot when he called for OXI in April 2004? Or because he felt that a YES would have diminished his own property?
And this Famagusta issue? did you see it? Please see my post for Famagusta...33 years late arent they? signatures for gods sake..if signatures would work other than for marketing, then the TCs would have managed direct flights to the North directly from Heathrow's Terminal 4!!!

PenPoint, for a moment I though you might be a serious interlocutor, and I thought that perhaps I should give it a try! Unfortunately, after reading all the above garbage, I see no point wasting my time and energy!

My friend, whatever you name as garbage above, could be an "opinion" which as such is welcome in a forum like this, or is your domination of this forum as such, endangered? Sorry but we all will do with some answers... As for the contents I am not accusing Papadopoullos for anything, otherwise I would have sued his guts for not letting me go home to Famagusta where i come from!

[PENPOINT]

@ Penpoint

So just because some idiot said the reason Papadopoulos said OXI was because his own immovable property will diminish in value is enough reason to believe he is right, no?

First of all have you asked how much property Papadopoulos owns in the occupied?? Have you asked how much the Leventis family (his wife) owns in the occupied? Have you asked how his own bussiness (from where he makes his millions) will be affected by a solution.
Secondly who told you the prices of immovable properties will drop after a solution? Even Vasilious study which accounted for huge pieces of GC to be lost land predicted that they would stabilise for a few years and then start rising again.

If my information is correct the Leventis Family is included in the 130 GC applications for damages from the Turks... and their property in the North is less than their property in the South near Amathus Hotel in Limassol about 9 million CYP. Anyhow, it could be property devaluation as far as I am concerned, (who would be based on a loser like Vasiliou anyway?)but am i wrong to imply that Papadopoullos enjoys his position along with Talat if there is NO SOLUTION? A change in the country as big as that awaited could diminish their property and why would they take the risk? Even if Vasiliou is right? Nevertheless, no progress in the Cyprus Problem has a reason...can you define that? Please excuse my questioning but some answers are needed...

[T_C]

Ofcourse they don't want a solution. Annan plan to one side are you trying to tell me that if they were willing, they couldn't sit down like men and start talking, not start solving but at least start TALKING. Where theres a will theres a way and I'm almost 100% sure these people don't want a solution.

Sometimes I even wonder if they know what the future of Cyprus holds and if they're just acting along to keep the people happy...

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

Turkish Cypriot, you forgot that Turkey is involved here. Turkey wants to keep their military outpost in Cyprus.