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Postby T_C » Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:27 pm

I suppose everyone knows about this site already, but I thought I'd post it incase anyone missed it...

http://www.cyprusdecides.org/
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:54 pm

Yes nothing has changed in that website. It belongs to the group of people who participated at PRIO. Basically a lot of people have wished the Anan Plan would provide a lasting solution and a real united cyprus, but unfortunately it did not. Even those who participated at PRIO finally came to admit it. Its sad really because too many respectable people from both sides joined forces and got prepared to be the core in the new United Cyprus.

All this gone waisted.... :cry:
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Postby ge0rg10 » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:07 pm

i haddent seen that website before so thanks i owe you one, not like me showing you something that has been quoted the page earlier and then telling you off for pointing it out to me lol sorry bud.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:36 am

I remember that website. I also still have their booklet that was send to me prior to the Annan plan.

Basically this is one of the USA funded projects that tried to highlight the few benefits of the Annan plan and hide its many problems and injustices.

Not to start a discussion about the Annan plan again, but all those details were indeed a waste of time. That monstrosity could have never survived, and therefore all that really mattered was the land distribution.

The Annan plan was basically just an intermediate stage for partition. Today partition is impossible since it is so much against the international law that would set a very negative example. The Annan plan would give some land back to GCs, and then it would be so dysfunctional that the only escape from it (since we would have signed away our rights) would be partition in a Serbia-Montenegro way.

That was basically the Annan plan. All the other details were just there to throw dust in our eyes.

If the land distribution was at least a fair one, and strong guarantees for its implementation existed, then maybe I would have voted for it.
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Postby T_C » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:40 am

ge0rg10 wrote:i haddent seen that website before so thanks i owe you one, not like me showing you something that has been quoted the page earlier and then telling you off for pointing it out to me lol sorry bud.


Its ok mate. Welcome to the forum by the way :D
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Postby T_C » Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:02 am

I get what you mean Piratis.

Do you think there'll be another "plan" anytime soon?

What do you see happening in the near future?
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:33 am

If there is one it will be based on the previous plans with the Annan plan at the heart of it. With some minor changes, the Annan plan can be accepted by the Greek Cypriots, according to Christofias, speaking immediately after the referendum. He realised then that its either a solution based on the Annan plan or partition. To think that the Cyprus problem can be solved in a ny other way is total fallacy.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:08 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:I get what you mean Piratis.

Do you think there'll be another "plan" anytime soon?

What do you see happening in the near future?


It all depends whether or not the Cyprus problem will create problems to others. Nobody cares to solve the Cyprus problem because the human rights of Cypriots are violated. The powerful ones care just for their own interests.

This is why the Annan plan was rushed just days before Cyprus entered the EU. It was not our problem they were trying to solve but their own.

What is certain is that we will not make the same mistake to accept that the UN (US/UK) can "fill in the gabs" again. Therefore maybe we will see more plans, but I doubt any of them will reach referendum any time soon.

If there is one it will be based on the previous plans with the Annan plan at the heart of it. With some minor changes, the Annan plan can be accepted by the Greek Cypriots, according to Christofias, speaking immediately after the referendum. He realised then that its either a solution based on the Annan plan or partition. To think that the Cyprus problem can be solved in a ny other way is total fallacy.


The truth is that today the Cyprus problem can not be solved, unless you consider suicide a solution.
The only available option at the moment for us is to maintain the right for our legal and human rights (which we can lose only if we are stupid enough to sign them away), use our EU membership for our benefit as much as we can, and closely follow the international developments in our region.

What seems impossible today can be very possible tomorrow. The balance of power never stays constant and nobody knows what will happen in 5, 10 or 15 years from today.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:00 pm

the only plan cyprus needs is to be one........... get rid of the army ..............get rid of turkish and greek influence..................... have a neutral island.................
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