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[pappy_sydney]

askimwos wrote
You can think whatever you want, however, this is your personal opinion and please use I instead of WE. You can only talk for yourself.
As for our True flag being the greek one, please give as a break mate.
CYPRUS IS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY, if you don't like it then call yourself greek and go live in Greece, Cyprus has suffered enough from people that tried to force these views in Cyprus.

As for the greek flag and whether it can be legally flown everywhere you are WRONG. Only one flag can be flown and is flown on Government buildings and this is the Cyprus flag (you know the one with the golden map of Cyprus and the two olive branches on it!). The greek flag can only be flown on school buildings and churhes according to the constitution.


you give me a break you uneducated moron, what flag did 96 percent of cypriots vote for in the 50s referendum, for once ill agree with free_cyprus, the zurich agreement is an unjust agreement which has brought on the current miseries of the cypriots, also the greek flag is something the cypriots love to fly when they want to show their identity to the world, have a look at the green line, ohi day, greek independence day, euro 2004 celebrations....etc....what planet did you come from askimos? why is the greek flag flown legally at schools and churches? ah maybe we are greeks....duuuur ..you have an identity problem i think....!!!!!

[free_cyprus]

pappy_sydney
feck my wellington boots you actualy agreed with em on something waw let me get my breath back here ..........................jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....................you only have to open your mind up and you will see many unjust things in cyprus turkish speaking side and greek speakign side even though to me they are the same people with lost identities

[Pyrpolizer]

...what flag did 96 percent of cypriots vote for in the 50s referendum....

That was a petition not a referendum. Signing the petition was in public (thus violating the democratic right for privacy of ones own vote). The signing was in books outside the churches. Hence it's a miracle that it even received 4% objections. You should pay more attention to the % of people who refused to sign. I bet you don't know how much that % was.

Regardless how much you think the above percentage would today be?

[Pyrpolizer]

It is not easy to draw any definite conclusions from this event since the population was persistently urged by the nationalists to vote and the voting took the form of signing one's name under a petition in public. If a Greek was to vote on this issue at all it was as embarrassing and risky for him to vote against Enosis as to declare in public that he was not a 'True Greek'."
(Zenon Stavrinides, Cyprus Conflict, National Identity and Statehood, p.28)

[polis]

Hi Polis

That's the point, I don't have the time or inclination to edit manifold obscenities and insults in any post; if there is one or two, then may be they are edited out and the post emains, when there are more, the whole post goes. Can people not debate logically without resorting to schoolboy language/actions?


Polis, I do not 'favour my friends', I have no friends - because everyone hates here me Serioulsy, I am always amused at allegations of my favouritism, such that I have to check out the ethnic orientation of the postee's opinions, to see who they think I favour!

My role here is of an interested neutral, which is why, although I have my own views on the issues, I rarely post here. If you can find bias, please feel free to pm me with details.

Lana

Lana,

If your role is to administer the list as an interested neutral then you are pretty bad at it. If you were the little bit serious about what you are doing here, then you would have introduced a quarantine system by which a message you consider offencive doesn't just get deleted but is moved to a publicly accessible quaranteen thread and the person who posted it is given the opportunity to edit it and return it to its proper place. You cannot run a forum where you can just remove whole message or even threads at a whim. The content of the message you just deleted was using exactly the same tone as the previous message that you did not take offence to, and yet you chose simply to throw the reply out of existence like it had never been posted so that anyone who happens to land into the page, say from a google search, gets a wholly distorted view of the discussion. You don't even place a note that a reply had been posted which had been deleted. This is a joke. Basically, the whole way you are trying to administer this form is arbitrary and quite incompetent which pretty much explains the atrocious level of the discussions here. I think you should try to get your act together.

BTW, whoever told you that it is normal practice to just go into a forum you are administering get somebody's message and simply cut away bits from the message without even as much as saying so, so that somebody who reads the post thinks its the original posting from the author. Now really, do you have the slightest idea what you are doing here? You just think it's ok just distort people's messages and essentially forge people's opinions. You guys really are not serious!

[askimwos]

askimwos wrote
You can think whatever you want, however, this is your personal opinion and please use I instead of WE. You can only talk for yourself.
As for our True flag being the greek one, please give as a break mate.
CYPRUS IS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY, if you don't like it then call yourself greek and go live in Greece, Cyprus has suffered enough from people that tried to force these views in Cyprus.

As for the greek flag and whether it can be legally flown everywhere you are WRONG. Only one flag can be flown and is flown on Government buildings and this is the Cyprus flag (you know the one with the golden map of Cyprus and the two olive branches on it!). The greek flag can only be flown on school buildings and churhes according to the constitution.


you give me a break you uneducated moron, what flag did 96 percent of cypriots vote for in the 50s referendum, for once ill agree with free_cyprus, the zurich agreement is an unjust agreement which has brought on the current miseries of the cypriots, also the greek flag is something the cypriots love to fly when they want to show their identity to the world, have a look at the green line, ohi day, greek independence day, euro 2004 celebrations....etc....what planet did you come from askimos? why is the greek flag flown legally at schools and churches? ah maybe we are greeks....duuuur ..you have an identity problem i think....!!!!!

Speak for yourself, you idiot!

We are Cypriots first and foremost, our country is Cyprus, our flag is the Cypriot flag, we have our own government and our own island! Ethnic background is another thing. I consider my self Cypriot of greek origin, this however does no make me a Greek.
Nobody denied you to have your own opinion and consider yourself whatever you like. But stop speaking for others and do your research first before opening mouth, or touching your keyboard.

I suggest you come to Cyprus and ask people what their nationality is, and how their flag looks like.

[pappy_sydney]

askimwos said
We are Cypriots first and foremost, our country is Cyprus, our flag is the Cypriot flag, we have our own government and our own island! Ethnic background is another thing. I consider my self Cypriot of greek origin, this however does no make me a Greek.
Nobody denied you to have your own opinion and consider yourself whatever you like. But stop speaking for others and do your research first before opening mouth, or touching your keyboard.

I suggest you come to Cyprus and ask people what their nationality is, and how their flag looks like.


I have gone to Cyprus moron and I know we are Cypriots but thats the same as asking someone from Crete who they are? Of course they will say they are Cretan.....But we are ALL GREEKS you moron.....you are a confused uneducated moron....From the nationality point of view we are CYPRIOTs and proud of it but we are also proud that we are GREEK CYPRIOTS which means we are GREEK who love the GREEK flag and are proud of the GREEK flag and national anthem.....we are not simply of GREEK origin......you are from the idiot few that claim they are ONLY cypriot...you are a confused bunch..read some history and learn who you are first.....

[pappy_sydney]

Pyrpolizer said


That was a petition not a referendum. Signing the petition was in public (thus violating the democratic right for privacy of ones own vote). The signing was in books outside the churches. Hence it's a miracle that it even received 4% objections. You should pay more attention to the % of people who refused to sign. I bet you don't know how much that % was.

Regardless how much you think the above percentage would today be?


i suppose all the people who signed for enosis were forced into it..comon give me a break, this is more nonsense from you.... tell that to all the Cypriots waving Greek flags and screaming out for enosis in the riots against the british in the 50s....tell that to the young men who swore to fight and died for freedom to have enosis.....of course now most would be against enosis including me, but thats because we are wise enough to know that this is not a practical choice in light of Cyprus' current political position and status.

[free_cyprus]

pappy_sydney
can you and ask a mexicon he is spanish or a cuban or argentinean or chilean and i can name many other countries.................. and you say we are greeks

[Simon]

I'm in complete agreement with you Pappy_sydney; and I believe that so are the majority of GCs. For some reason, there are a lot of anti-Greek GCs on this Forum, who believe they are the educated few. However, I know that the average Cypriot does not think like this. They know they are GREEK Cypriots.