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[Pyrpolizer]

So Talat sent a letter to the UN on the 3rd of April expressing concerns about the procedure and suggesting we forget about them and start discussing the Anan Plan?

Papers say full text is in Yeniduzen of 11 April

[Sotos]

They don't care about any unification procedure. They are happy to keep our properties. Talat is no better than Denktash and now he proved it again.

[observer]

This is a bizarre transforming of the truth about a person (Talat) who came to power on a wave of popular support wanting unification. Since then he has been accused of just about everything you can think of by the GC government who show no signs of wanting unification - only going back to domination again.

The agreement last year was to talk about simple things to make the ordinary citizen's life easier and build confidence between the two communites. Things like telephones and mail, environmental issues and so on. Papadopoulos immediately ensured that these talks would not take place by putting on the agenda big topics like land, settlers, Turkish Army etc. Even the UN, in diplomatic language, said that he was not telling the truth of what had been agreed.

Papadopolous has succeeded in putting everything back to at least 1974, and in mind-set even somewhere before that. Strange that a GC/EOKA/Akritas Plan man should be so keen on the TRNC's continued existance.

[DT.]

This is a bizarre transforming of the truth about a person (Talat) who came to power on a wave of popular support wanting unification. Since then he has been accused of just about everything you can think of by the GC government who show no signs of wanting unification - only going back to domination again.

The agreement last year was to talk about simple things to make the ordinary citizen's life easier and build confidence between the two communites. Things like telephones and mail, environmental issues and so on. Papadopoulos immediately ensured that these talks would not take place by putting on the agenda big topics like land, settlers, Turkish Army etc. Even the UN, in diplomatic language, said that he was not telling the truth of what had been agreed.

Papadopolous has succeeded in putting everything back to at least 1974, and in mind-set even somewhere before that. Strange that a GC/EOKA/Akritas Plan man should be so keen on the TRNC's continued existance.

GC/EOKA/AKRITAS

I'm assuming you think that these are the 3 worst things you can characterise someone Observer.

[Pyrpolizer]

The agreement last year was to talk about simple things to make the ordinary citizen's life easier and build confidence between the two communites. Things like telephones and mail, environmental issues and so on. Papadopoulos immediately ensured that these talks would not take place by putting on the agenda big topics like land, settlers, Turkish Army etc. Even the UN, in diplomatic language, said that he was not telling the truth of what had been agreed.

Absolutely not. This is what Talat insisted of what these Technical committees should deal about, but doesn’t mean this is what was agreed with Cambari. This is what the initial reaction of Talat was remember? At a later stage they agreed each side was free to raise absolutely whatever issue they would like in those committees.
Besides if it was to discuss simple matters of everyday issue we wouldn’t have the Ambassadors of the security council in Cyprus urging for immediate start of work of the committees, we would have them urging for meetings of the leaders to discuss the substantial issues.

I personally think the only difference between Talat and Denktash is that Denktash wanted partition plain and square and annexation to Turkey, Talat wants his own state or a disguised partition that will save the TCs from anexation to Turkey. Both are unacceptable to us.

[Kifeas]

This is a bizarre transforming of the truth about a person (Talat) who came to power on a wave of popular support wanting unification.

Really???
Papadopoulos too came to power on a wave of popular support wanting unification! As a proof, Papadopoulos accepted and signed the 8th of July agreement (below) in which he agrees to negotiate for a solution on the basis of BBF (principle 1, below.) Papadopoulos sticks to his agreement! Talat backtracks on his agreement! “Scripta manet!” Who is more pro-solution, Talat or Papadopoulos? Of course Papadopoulos!

Since then he has been accused of just about everything you can think of by the GC government who show no signs of wanting unification - only going back to domination again.

The 8th of July agreement speaks leaps and bounds to the contray of what you claim!

The agreement last year was to talk about simple things to make the ordinary citizen's life easier and build confidence between the two communites. Things like telephones and mail, environmental issues and so on. Papadopoulos immediately ensured that these talks would not take place by putting on the agenda big topics like land, settlers, Turkish Army etc.

Agreement of 8th July 2006

Agreement between the President of the Republic Mr Tassos Papadopoulos and the Turkish Cypriot leader Mr Mehmet Ali Talat (8 July 2006)

Set of Principles

1. Commitment to the unification of Cyprus based on a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation and political equality, as set out in the relevant Security Council resolutions.

2. Recognition of the fact that the status quo is unacceptable and that its prolongation would have negative consequences for the Turkish and Greek Cypriots.

3. Commitment to the proposition that a comprehensive settlement is both desirable and possible, and should not be further delayed.

4. Agreement to begin a process immediately, involving bi-communal discussion of issues that affect the day to day life of the people and concurrently those that concern substantive issues, both of which will contribute to a comprehensive settlement.

5. Commitment to ensure that the "right atmosphere" prevails for this process to be successful. In that connection, confidence building measures are essential, both in terms of improving the atmosphere and improving the life of all Turkish and Greek Cypriots. Also in that connection, an end must be put to the so-called "blame game".

Decision by the two leaders

The Technical Committees on issues that affect the day to day life of people will commence by the end of July provided that, at the same time, the two Leaders will also have exchanged a list of issues of substance and its contents to be studied by expert bi-communal working groups and finalized by the Leaders.

The two Leaders will meet further, from time to time as appropriate, to give directions to the expert bi-communal working groups as well as to review the work of the Technical Committees.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument

Do you still have doubts Observer?

Even the UN, in diplomatic language, said that he was not telling the truth of what had been agreed.

Any evidence that such a thing indeed occurred, because I have no idea of such a case?

Papadopolous has succeeded in putting everything back to at least 1974, and in mind-set even somewhere before that.

What are you talking here about? You make no sense!

Strange that a GC/EOKA/Akritas Plan man should be so keen on the TRNC's continued existance.

And here too! You make no sense!