Cyprus-Forum.com

[Piratis]

I find it quite shocking that this furore has blown up over this an indicative of just how far some Cypriots have to go to be true Europeans, for whom freedom of expression and thought is one of the cornerstones of our modern societies.

And may I ask where you saw the limitation of freedom of expression? Everybody said that he wanted to say, isn't it?

In most other European countries, parties with the power of Themistocleous party (2.5%) don't even get a seat in the parliament.
In cyprus not only the do, but they are given much more air time than their power, and they say whatever they feel like.

And by the way, do you think that if a British politician was going on TV and said something that offended the people (e.g. "The Queen is a slut"), that nobody would react?

[turkcyp]

Today I was reading another news in Cyprus PIO, and they refer to CTA (KTHY) as an illegal airline as well......

I guess they have to do their research more in debth to. CTA is a registered company in Turkey, not in TRNC, and therefore is not illegal or pseudo at all.

I guess for GCs everything we do is pseudo anyway. May be even our names Mehmet, Ahmet, etc etc are pseudo as well.....

Gosh. I am reading and loughing everyday.

[mehmet]

Yes,

in England the Queen is ridiculed by comedians, the status of the monarchy is argued about in serious and not so serious progerammes too. There are no traitors being labelled for it in England though.

[magikthrill]

Today I was reading another news in Cyprus PIO, and they refer to CTA (KTHY) as an illegal airline as well......

I guess they have to do their research more in debth to. CTA is a registered company in Turkey, not in TRNC, and therefore is not illegal or pseudo at all.

I guess for GCs everything we do is pseudo anyway. May be even our names Mehmet, Ahmet, etc etc are pseudo as well.....

Gosh. I am reading and loughing everyday.

Again I agree that those comments are ridicuslou if CTA is registered in Turkey.

However, if it wasn't than it would be an illegal company because it would be registered by an illegal state.

[turkcyp]

However, if it wasn't than it would be an illegal company because it would be registered by an illegal state.

This is a very similar subject to property,

The legallity of a company, a decision, law, procedure, does not depend on whether the country is legal or not. Countries legallity is a seperate subject than its legal systems legallity. It can be found that (like it did in numerous occasions before) that a country is not legal but its legal system can deem to be just and legal.

I am not saying this is the case in north. Obviously I believe different than you. But what I believe and what you believe does not matter, What matters is what the outside courts say. If tomorrow the court in UK decides that the legal system in north is legit than it becomes legit in UK law. A seperate country's courts (like RoC) can interpret legal system in north differently and say that the legal system in north is not legit and that becomes the law in RoC. It is not pur opinion that counts, it is the courts opinion that counts.

I mean I have been considering RoC illegitamae all teh last 30 years but it did not matter to outside world. The same thing can happen to GCs as well, if tomorrow the courts in UK decides that the law in north stands as they are.

I like to dream you know. But you never know what happens when something goes to court. It never is a clear cut subject.

Take care,

[donyork]

So much for the prospects of reunification of Cyprus. Would the last man across the border please switch off the lights.

[Piratis]

Yes,

in England the Queen is ridiculed by comedians, the status of the monarchy is argued about in serious and not so serious progerammes too. There are no traitors being labelled for it in England though.

Did a parliament member called her a slut on TV?

And by the way, UK is not occupied. Do you think that if a French was supporting the Nazis when France was occupied by the Germans they wouldn't call him traitor? Do you know any country that when under occupation any person that was supporting the enemy was not considered a traitor?

I believe you totally forget that we are under occupation.

[Piratis]

So much for the prospects of reunification of Cyprus.

Reunification will not come by giving excuses to the occupation. (A partition plan like Annan plan might come from such things, but thats out of the question as I hope you understood already)

[donyork]

There are two GC faces on this site. That of Alexander Lourdos and that of Piratis. One is liberal the other is not. One deserves respect, the other contempt. One is in tune with Europen attitudes, the other is a racist who in other societies would be arrested by the police. One offers hope for the future, the other condemns us to the past. The question for an outsider like me is which of the two represents the real face of Greek-Cypriot opinion.

[mehmet]

I don't remember anyone saying that anyone else was a slut (not even Papadopoulos) on Cyprus tv either.

It's not that people respond that's the issue, but the hysteria that surrounds it, every other politician has to make a comment on this 'national' issue, I don't know maybe right now some school students are drawing placards to use in a demonstration. Only in Cyprus is such over-reaction 'normal'.