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[magikthrill]

IMO, Themistocleous has a point of dettering communication between the two peoples but the fact remains

it is a pseudo-state

The occupied part of Cyprus is as legal as the country that I have declared in my own apartment.

Only I am not violating anybody's human rights.

[turkcyp]

IMO, Themistocleous has a point of dettering communication between the two peoples but the fact remains

it is a pseudo-state

The occupied part of Cyprus is as legal as the country that I have declared in my own apartment.

Only I am not violating anybody's human rights.

As the first post pointed out, if we are so interested in the adjectives, at least we should learn what they mean.

I suggest you do a research on the difference between pseudo and illegal. I guess any English library would do....

(I am not saying that you should not believe TRNC is a pseudo state. Believe whatever you want. But from your post I had the impression that you think pseudo means illegal. To completly unrelated terms. Something may be pseudo and completly legal, and vice versa. If I got you wrong SORRY already.)

[magikthrill]

turkcyp,

you are right illegal and pseudo are not the same thing. in terms of the international community the RoC is the only real government of the island. and the RoC uses the term pseudo state because for them the north is nothing but a pretend government.

But point taken. If you prefer I can refer to it as the illegal state from now on .

[Alexandros Lordos]

If you prefer I can refer to it as the illegal state from now on .

Ts Ts ... if the press gets to hear anout you ...

[Bananiot]

My conclusions, Alexandros, are not based on disappointment. Rather, they are based on the political realities and at this point of instance I can see no way to reverse the current trend. I firmly believe that Papadopoulos does not want to know about a solution based on bizonal, bicommunal, federation (the only realistic option) let alone the A plan. He never did and in Helsinki he was quite explicit in saying he prefers partition. In the meantime he has created a huge following to his way of thinking, using the old recipe of patriotic rhetoric that paradoxically sells very well even among AKEL members. He seems to have a stranglehold on DISI members too and an energetic leader like Anastasiades cannot command the necessary party respect when it comes to the Cyprus issue. What happened yesterday at the memorial service for Grivas highlights this point very well. Also, and this is what really bothers me, the TC’s who turned to the streets in their thousands to make themselves count are now slowly but steadily becoming increasingly conscious of the fact that we do not want them as equal partners in a new Cyprus.

Alexandre, there is nothing to give me even a glimpse of optimism and believe me, I am not sitting on my ass and I see the signs everywhere.

[brother]

Why is it in the south when someone airs their democratically given right of an opinion, that people like tassos/piratis are standing by ready to call them a traitor.

For the record the real traitor is the one trying to squash another persons opinion, however stupid or unpopular it is, because in a democratic country we all have a right to say what we want without being labelled something grossly untrue and unfair.

[pantelis]

Nope!
A traitor is the one who calls a Traitor..... a "Traitor"!!!!

[brother]

huh........ .....got it.....

[turkcyp]

But point taken. If you prefer I can refer to it as the illegal state from now on .

You can call it whatever you want my friend, as I told you I believe in freedom of opinion and expression,

That is why I call current RoC as a sham when it claims that it is the representative of TCs as well....

[cannedmoose]

I've reached a mighty compromise (and one that took many seconds of thought and deliberation How about we call the north the 'Lemons' and the south the 'Oranges'. At the end of the day, we're all fruit (credit must go to My Big Fat Greek Wedding for that inspiration)

On a serious note, the word 'traitor' is barely used these days with good reason. Simply calling the north an illegal state is hardly treachery, it's simply an opinion. I find it quite shocking that this furore has blown up over this an indicative of just how far some Cypriots have to go to be true Europeans, for whom freedom of expression and thought is one of the cornerstones of our modern societies.

Phew... my brain's fried after that, must go and lay down.