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[the_snake_and_the_crane]

On the Cyprus conflict, yes, their foreign policy is on the side of GCs. Their embassy was on your side the last time I checked, and they are the ones that do not recognize our state and put Turkey under an ambargo after 1974 (although for a short period)... Your reference is a subject of their foreign policy, the U.S. library of Congress, thus meaningless, unlike the one I presented that was written by a GC and referenced by many.

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WTF!? Americans on the side of Cyprus in 1974????

Do you know who Henry Kissinger is??? Do you know that president Lyndan Johnson wanted to partition Cyprus at that time too? America hated Cyprus then because Makarios was embracing socialism and threatend to turn Cyprus into the Cuba of the Med!!

To say that because that America does not recognise the 'TRNC' is testament to them favouring Cyprus is not true at all. NOBODY recognised the 'TRNC' - not even Turkic countries.

By the way Murataga, what are you trying to prove in your post which quotes a GC author???

[Pyrpolizer]

On the Cyprus conflict, yes, their foreign policy is on the side of GCs. Their embassy was on your side the last time I checked, and they are the ones that do not recognize our state and put Turkey under an ambargo after 1974 (although for a short period)... Your reference is a subject of their foreign policy, the U.S. library of Congress, thus meaningless, unlike the one I presented that was written by a GC and referenced by many.

You are hilarious my friend. The Americans on our side, just because they don’t recognise the pseudo? You must be joking really.
And because they embargoed Turkey for 2 years after they invaded Cyprus????
Sure man they are on our side, do you by any chance know wht the did to Iraq when they invaded Kuwait?

Oh I almost forgot the Anan Plan. Who said
"we gave Turkey 15 billion dollars and the Anan Plan" to let us pass through to Iraq. They rejected our offer but still the Anan Plan stayed.

[Piratis]

On the Cyprus conflict, yes, their foreign policy is on the side of GCs. Their embassy was on your side the last time I checked, and they are the ones that do not recognize our state and put Turkey under an ambargo after 1974 (although for a short period)... Your reference is a subject of their foreign policy, the U.S. library of Congress, thus meaningless, unlike the one I presented that was written by a GC and referenced by many.

If you want to see it from that angle then the whole world is on our side as no country has an embassy or recognize your pseudo state. Why do you think is that? The reason is simple: Even your best friends like Azerbaijan, Pakistan, UK and USA can not ignore the simple fact that the occupation of Cyprus by turkey is as illegal and as criminal as it gets.

The answer is clearly and correctfully presented if you carefully read my post. However, "reading" is apparently not one of your favorite past times ... Sorry to bust your bubbles but not everything that opposes your views and knowledge from racist GC propaganda is "crap" (as you chose to express).

There was no clear answer. You initially said "no innocent should be punished" while then you went on to your usual rhetoric of why it is fine to punish Greek Cypriots via ethnic cleansing and human right violations.

If your argument is that you commit crimes against us to "secure yourself" then the same argument can be made for committing crimes against you. We would also feel much safer without you around killing us and stealing our properties. So we are back to square one, and I will ask you again and answer me straight without your usual double standards: Should innocent people today and in the future be punished by means of ethnic cleansing and human rights violations based on events that happened many decades ago?


The only racist in here is you. I have always supported human rights for all without racist discriminations, while you on the contrary is looking for excuses to reject this. If you reject human rights for all, and you insist on our human rights violations and the occupation of our country then you don't give me any alternative than to fight against you, right?

[Pyrpolizer]

Here Murataga. Exactly the same points answred but you NEVER reply.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus10479-60.html

[Murataga]

o.k. guys I am just one person and can`t answer all of you at the same. Yet, more importantly, I will definitiely not repeat the answers I have already provided in my posts because you will not accept them out of sheer ego. Just this last one though before I call it a day and go to sleep:

Should innocent people today and in the future be punished by means of ethnic cleansing and human rights violations based on events that happened many decades ago?

As I have previously answered but you declined to understand: No. That is why the TRNC should be immediately recognized and the TCs be compensated for their sufferings and loss for: (1) refusing to succumb to ENOSIS (2) the illegalities/violence they have been subjected to for the past 32 years (3) the ambargo illegally imposed upon them.

[Piratis]

As I have previously answered but you declined to understand: No. That is why the TRNC should be immediately recognized and the TCs be compensated for their sufferings and loss for: (1) refusing to succumb to ENOSIS (2) the illegalities/violence they have been subjected to for the past 32 years (3) the ambargo illegally imposed upon them.

This is a great example of Turkish arrogance. They illegally occupy our country and violate the human rights of 100s of thousands of people, and on top of that they want to be rewarded on our loss.

So it is perfectly clear that the turks approve the ethnic cleansing of 200.000 Greek Cypriots and the violations of our human rights. This is the conclusion, just keep it in your mind for when your turn will come to pay the bill.

[ken910]

snake who in the world made you an expert how about u supply the point of youre info is it like piratis youre primary books u r so full of it no wonder u callyoure self a snake . zan this man has lost the plot u or i have nothing to prove to them .now this is the real problem we r trying to hard f them let them beg us

[Murataga]

piratis - you wrote:

This is a great example of Turkish arrogance. They illegally occupy our country and violate the human rights of 100s of thousands of people, and on top of that they want to be rewarded on our loss.

So it is perfectly clear that the turks approve the ethnic cleansing of 200.000 Greek Cypriots and the violations of our human rights. This is the conclusion, just keep it in your mind for when your turn will come to pay the bill.

No it is not an example of Turkish arrogance, it is a clear display of your personal denial. No it is not the conlusion it is how you wish to distort realities. No, it is not only your country, it is our`s, TCs` aswell.

If there is any illegal occupation in Cyprus, it is your lot that has invaded the government of RoC. You have been illegally violating our human rights every day for the past 32 years. You repeat like a broken record that we "gain on your loss", when it is you that actually got all the financial aid, recognition and support for ousting us out of the ROc to achieve ENOSIS (i.e. to have the island to be a subject of Greece), yet you speak of our "gain"?... We can make no progress before you acknowledge the paramount violations of our human rights in the past and the present day in Cyprus. Finally, I strongly suggest that you stop repeatedly making threats when your arguement is nullified, for it is an insult to your people who I know is better than that.

[humanist]

Who is going to tell him to fuck off>>>>.

[miltiades]

piratis - you wrote:

This is a great example of Turkish arrogance. They illegally occupy our country and violate the human rights of 100s of thousands of people, and on top of that they want to be rewarded on our loss.

So it is perfectly clear that the turks approve the ethnic cleansing of 200.000 Greek Cypriots and the violations of our human rights. This is the conclusion, just keep it in your mind for when your turn will come to pay the bill.

No it is not an example of Turkish arrogance, it is a clear display of your personal denial. No it is not the conlusion it is how you wish to distort realities. No, it is not only your country, it is our`s, TCs` aswell.

If there is any illegal occupation in Cyprus, it is your lot that has invaded the government of RoC. You have been illegally violating our human rights every day for the past 32 years. You repeat like a broken record that we "gain on your loss", when it is you that actually got all the financial aid, recognition and support for ousting us out of the ROc to achieve ENOSIS (i.e. to have the island to be a subject of Greece), yet you speak of our "gain"?... We can make no progress before you acknowledge the paramount violations of our human rights in the past and the present day in Cyprus. Finally, I strongly suggest that you stop repeatedly making threats when your arguement is nullified, for it is an insult to your people who I know is better than that.

I'm glad to note that you consider Cyprus to belong both to the G/Cs and the T/Cs . Come and join us , we gave up ENOSIS we matured and repented , our RoC is the only legitimate government whether Turkey likes it on not. Will you give up the partition dream ?