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[humanist]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default.aspx?FrontPageNewsID=304_4



CoE Ministers urge Turkey
implement Rights Court
judgements without delay

By Angelos Marcopoulos
STRASBOURG
TURKEY must implement the judgements of the European Human Rights Court ordering it to restore the usurped properties of the Greek Cypriot refugees from the Turkish-occupied north without further delay, the Ministerial Committee of the Council of Europe ruled yesterday.
Turkey was warned that its obligation to comply with the Court's judgements "entails an obligation to adopt measures to put an end to the violation found, to erase, as far as possible, their consequences and to prevent new violations similar to those found.''
It added that the need to adopt such measures in this case, is all the more pressing in view of the time elapsed since the Court's ruling six years ago.
The CoE Ministers also warned that "a continuation of Turkey's failure to implement the Court's judgements would amount to a manifest breach of Turkey's obligations under Article 46-1 of the (European) Convention on Human Rights.'"
The Foreign Ministers from the 45 CoE member states also formally "urged the Turkish authorities to provide detailed and concrete information on changes and transfers of Property at issue in (Rights Court) judgement...and on measures to safeguard the property rights of displaced Greek Cypriots recognised by the Court."
The ministers also expressed "concern" that despite "regular requests" from the CoE for Turkey to act, "Turkey's response does not yet clarify the issue," and formally urged Turkey ``to act now without delay."

Ankara also criticised
over Greek Cypriot missing
TURKEY was also strongly criticised by the CoE Ministers over its failure to conduct an effective investigation into the fate of the hundreds of Greek Cypriots who are still listed as missing in the wake of the Turkish invasion and occupation of north Cyprus.
The Ministers pointed out that, as far back as 2001, the Rights Court noted "the continuing absence of effective investigation into the fate of the missing Greek Cypriots," and "the silence of the Turkish authorities in the face of the real concerns of the Relatives," that the Rights Court described as "Inhuman and Degrading Treatment."
The CoE Resolution expressed "regret'' that in the two years "since the adoption of a first interim resolution in this case Turkey has furnished no information in this respect."
The resolution further called on Turkey: "To rapidly provide information on additional measures required to ensure the effective investigation called for by the (European) Court's Judgement."
"To ensure full compliance with the ECHR's Judgement,'' and thats such an investigation must be "aimed at clarifying the whareabouts and fate of the Greek Cypriot missing persons, including those of whom there is an arguable claim that they were in custody when they disappeared."
The resolution noted that for this purpose, the Rights Court found that the procedures of the UN Cyprus Missing Persons (CMP) Committee "are not sufficient to meet the standard of an effective investigation, .especially in view of the narrow scope of that body's investigations .and its territorial jurisdiction, which is limited to the island of Cyprus." :
It added that the CMP has only a mandate to draw up a list of missing persons... to determine whether they are alive or dead, and, in the latter case, to determined the date of their deaths." But "effective investigations", according to ECHR's case-law, "should also deal with the causes of the disappearances and the circumstances in which they occured,'' something that is excluded from the CMP's present mandate ", denounces a recent CoE's Study. The need to conduct investigations in Turkey cannot be contested by Ankara's persisting claims which had already been advanced to ECHR, but rejected.
The resolution noted Cyprus' demand that Turkey must provide "military reports and records prepared by the Turkish Army on lists and total number of Greek Cypriot prisoners who were transported to Turkey, detained in Turkish prisons, or transferred to Turkish hospitals.''
The CoE resolution welcomed the progress achieved on the exhumation and identification of remains.
Dealing with the Greek Cypriot ``enclaved'' in the occupied north, the resolution noted that among the issues which "remain outstanding regarding further aspects of the living conditions'' of these Greek Cypriots ``are notably those related to their property rights and their right to effective remedies.''
It said that in view of the continuing situation, the CoE Committee ``will not close its examination of the violations established in relation to the issues of education and freedom of religion."

[shahmaran]

I think they tried that one already no?

Dont you think it will be pretty stupid to give it another "shot" 30 years later?

[humanist]

Not at all Shahmaran, If Turkey continues to act innapropriately then the EU and the rest of the world needs to act in way that would be appropriate. each action has consequence, I steal your car, I am found guilty I go straight to jail I do not collect three hundret dollars/

[Murataga]

humanist- "appropriate" according to who? TCs were kicked out of that "car" you examplify through illegallities and through violence when they were riding without any problem with their GCs friends. Unfortunately, the consequence of this action for the GC side was a basket full of political rewards, that included their illegal recognition as the government of RoC (in which no TC is present), millions of dollars worth of financial aid and etc.... So please save us from your version of what is "appropriate".

[humanist]

Marataga, Turkey was found guilty of violation of human rights in Cyprus by the international community, the stolen land upon which you built your nation is not recognised by any other nation in the world other than the the military that occupies one third of cyprus , having said this you can take your coments and stick em. Greek refugees ousted from their homes by your actions equal the number of the population in the north, and you think that is appropriate???? You have a choice to live anywhere in Cyprus you like, they don't so don't preach about illegalities on behalf of the RoC.

[miltiades]

I think they tried that one already no?

Dont you think it will be pretty stupid to give it another "shot" 30 years later?

So you believe that this highly influential Court WILL JUST SIMPLY WITHER AWAY AND ALLOW TURKEY THE "HONOUR " OF IGNORING IT'S FINDINGS AND DIRECTIONS DO YOU ?
I don't believe so , Turkey is becoming more and more compliant in view of its commitment to take the nation and its people into Europe for the benefit of a nation struggling to come to terms with the New world that is Europe, not the Modern New World mentioned some time ago by Zan , but the world that will drive Turkey into the 21st century and make it an influential nation within Europe. Turkey will be a great nation as it once was but it can only be achieved through its membership to the most successful union of nations in the entire history of the world. Peace , stability , prosperity and modernization is an aspiration that Turkey has and it will take notice of the European Court .

[zan]

Marataga, Turkey was found guilty of violation of human rights in Cyprus by the international community, the stolen land upon which you built your nation is not recognised by any other nation in the world other than the the military that occupies one third of cyprus , having said this you can take your coments and stick em. Greek refugees ousted from their homes by your actions equal the number of the population in the north, and you think that is appropriate???? You have a choice to live anywhere in Cyprus you like, they don't so don't preach about illegalities on behalf of the RoC.

So all the illegalities and atrocities that the GCs did go unpunished and the TCs have to pay the bill again. This is getting really really boring......Still...Gives us something to fight against.

[zan]

I think they tried that one already no?

Dont you think it will be pretty stupid to give it another "shot" 30 years later?

So you believe that this highly influential Court WILL JUST SIMPLY WITHER AWAY AND ALLOW TURKEY THE "HONOUR " OF IGNORING IT'S FINDINGS AND DIRECTIONS DO YOU ?
I don't believe so , Turkey is becoming more and more compliant in view of its commitment to take the nation and its people into Europe for the benefit of a nation struggling to come to terms with the New world that is Europe, not the Modern New World mentioned some time ago by Zan , but the world that will drive Turkey into the 21st century and make it an influential nation within Europe. Turkey will be a great nation as it once was but it can only be achieved through its membership to the most successful union of nations in the entire history of the world. Peace , stability , prosperity and modernization is an aspiration that Turkey has and it will take notice of the European Court .

Still hoping for that "salesman of the year" award Miltiades. We can SEE you are trying to sell us rubbish quality gear. Give it up. ORRRRRRR......Get a better supplier.

[Murataga]

humanist- you wrote:

Marataga, Turkey was found guilty of violation of human rights in Cyprus by the international community, the stolen land upon which you built your nation is not recognised by any other nation in the world other than the the military that occupies one third of cyprus , having said this you can take your coments and stick em. Greek refugees ousted from their homes by your actions equal the number of the population in the north, and you think that is appropriate???? You have a choice to live anywhere in Cyprus you like, they don't so don't preach about illegalities on behalf of the RoC.

I acknowledge your concern and hope that you will listen to mine with an open heart. It is not we, the TCs who brought violence and bloodshed to the RoC. We did not embark on a lunatic adventure to secure, not independence for Cyprus, but its subjection to another state. We did not accept the independence agreements in 1960 with the intention of dishonoring them as soon as we could. We did not prepare and try to impose a clandestine plan to overthrow the Republic and to abrogate the treaties on which it was based. We did not attack and try to annihilate by force the other Cypriot people. We did not persecute them for years afterwards with savage inhumanity and heartless repression when they refused to succumb. We did not secretly bring into the island thousands of foreign troops in an attempt to create a fait accompli of its annexation to another State. And, in the end, it was not we who either provoked or launched the bloody coup d`etat in 1974 which compelled Turkey to intervene in Cyprus to stop the bloodshed and protect the Cypriots from a regime of terror headed by a homicidal maniac. If it is a compensation that is being asked from us for securing ourselves in a zone from all this, than the people who have committed these atrocities and illegalities shall be prepared to provide us with one aswell.

And yet it is those who set in train all this folly and mischief and evil who were rewarded for their aggression against us by being accorded recognition in 1964 as the legitimate “Government of Cyprus”. The U.N and its member states (with the honorable exception of Turkey) still persists in that error. The presentation that the GC rump of the bicommunal government established in 1960 constitutes the lawful Government of Cyprus is and has always been untrue in fact, invalid in law, and inconsistent with the recognition by the three guarantors of the Cyprus Republic at Geneva on 30 July 1974 of “the existence in practice in the Republic of Cyprus of two autonomous administrations, that of the GC community and that of the TC community’.

We the TCs recognize and accept the need for a negotiated settlement. Our goodwill has been amply demonstrated by our repeated assurances that the declaration of our indepenedent State will not stand in the way of negotiating the establishment of a bi-communal bi-zonal federal state for the whole of Cyprus. But what we can not and will not yield on is our right to independence and to decide our future for ourselves in the absence of agreement on such a federal state. That is our fundamental and inalienable right.

[Get Real!]

It is not we, the TCs who brought violence and bloodshed to the RoC.

If you are to attain any level of credibility in debate you must learn to be factual. Had you said "We are not the only ones responsible for the violence..." I would've continued reading the remainder of your post...