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[insan]

Government has taken measures to protect sovereignty, says spokesman

Nicosia, Jan 21 (CNA) -- The Cyprus government has taken measures recently to protect the Republic's sovereignty, with regard to a British programme to channel funds to the island's Turkish occupied areas, Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides said here today.

''The government has a duty to safeguard and protect the sovereignty of the state,'' he said, when asked to comment on press reports that Nicosia had asked London to halt the funding programme as it considers that it upgrades the status of the illegal regime in occupied Cyprus, which no state but Turkey recognises.




They try to prevent every effort which contributes to TCs wellbeing.

it considers that it upgrades the status of the illegal regime in occupied Cyprus

Nonsense excuses, actually a reflection of their hatred.

[insan]

Government: occupation regime aims at upgrading its status
CNA - Nicosia-Cyprus - 20/01/2005 15:52:08

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Government: occupation regime aims at upgrading its status

Nicosia, Jan 20 (CNA) -- The self-styled Turkish Cypriot regime, in occupied Cyprus, aims to upgrade its status through actions and comments in connection with the murder of three Turkish Cypriots, in the government controlled part of the island, Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides said here today.

"Moves by the Turkish Cypriot regime in this murder case are an attempt to obtain political gains. All the actions by the regime aim at upgrading its status, something which is not possible under the circumstances," the spokesman added.






And moves by the Greek Cypriot regime in this murder case are an attempt to obtain political gains. All the actions by the regime aim at downgrading Turkish Cypriot's status, something is a dream impossible under the circumstances.

[cannedmoose]

It's tit-for-tat, quite pathetic when you consider these are representatives of their peoples. They should be more concerned with working together to get those responsible locked up than scoring partisan points. If you can't work together to clear the streets of scum, then what hope for working together at all?

[Piratis]

RoC has offered a lot to improve TC wellbeing, like free health care, trade with legal means, the return of Famagusta and the opening of the port to both TCs and GCs etc.

Unfortunately the occupation regime rejects everything that could lead to unification of the island, and insist only on measures that will upgrade their preudo state.

Turkish Cypriots should understand that the Cyprus problem is not just a problem for Greek Cypriots. It is a problem for them also. Their problem will end when our problem will end. So the aim should be to find a solution to the Cyprus problem, and not to solve just the problem of Turkish Cypriots. (because such thing would mean that TCs would no longer have any motive of solving the problem of Greek Cypriots)

[Alexandros Lordos]

Turkish Cypriots should understand that the Cyprus problem is not just a problem for Greek Cypriots. It is a problem for them also. Their problem will end when our problem will end. So the aim should be to find a solution to the Cyprus problem, and not to solve just the problem of Turkish Cypriots. (because such thing would mean that TCs would no longer have any motive of solving the problem of Greek Cypriots)

Piratis, for once I totally agree with you

[insan]

Piratis, for once I totally agree with you

If you think that embargos imposed on Turkish Cypriot community and most of the GCs approval the continuation of the embargos helped to the solution of Cyprus problem; you are completely wrong.

The consequences of the embargos:

1- Regime in North and Governments of Turkey violated the 3rd Vienna Agreement in retaliation to unfair embargos imposed upon Turkish Cypriots. Due to opression GCs fled to South and thousands of settlers imported to North, given the properties of GCs for free. Today's settlers problem that GC side has been obliged to accept is a direct consequence of the unfair embargos imposed upon TCs.

2- How much anger, TCs feel against Turkish ruling elite because of the violation of 3rd Vienna agreement; feel as much anger against Hellenic Ruling elite because of the violation of the 60s agreements, Coup D'etat and unfair embargos.

3- GC stance to keep the embargos imposed upon TCs, courage the seperatist solution supporters rather than stimulating them to trust GC community for unification.


With this mentality, GC community; particularly the refugees will suffer more and more for a very looong time. How much TC community lose, as much the GC community will lose. That's the whole stupid story, anyway...

[Piratis]

First of all the "embargo" is not unfair. Turkey illegally occupies part of Cyprus. Should it be allowed to function like a normal state? Maybe this is your wish, but it will not happen.

How much TC community lose, as much the GC community will lose. That's the whole stupid story, anyway

True. So if the TC community wins then the GC community should win also, right? So tell me how will the GC community win if the "embargo" is lifted?

Actually the result will be that the GCs not only will win nothing, but they will loose even more. The TCs will sell off stolen properties even easier, they will export products that were not produced in their own fields, more tourists will go to the hotels they stole from us. If all this happens, the occupied areas will become richer, and this will attract even more settlers.

Insan, this is your dream I know. It is the road to partition that you had always dreamed about. But don't expect from Republic of Cyprus to help you to achieve your aims.

[Alexandros Lordos]

If you think that embargos imposed on Turkish Cypriot community and most of the GCs approval the continuation of the embargos helped to the solution of Cyprus problem; you are completely wrong.

No Insan, that's not what I meant ... it is good if the embargos are lifted, very good, but not in such a way as to encourage secessionist tendencies. The lifting of the embargos should take place within a wider package of confidence building measures, where both communities feel they have won something. The offer to re-open Famagusta and in return allow the operation of Famagusta harbor was an example of such a confidence-building measure, which would have allowed free trade, created thousands of jobs for TCs in order to rebuild Famagusta, and, above all, would get GCs and TCs working together on something for the first time in decades .... but it was rejected by the TC leadership which preferred to resort to a rhetoric of anti-GC hatred, and go straight to the EU in order to demand, well, nothing less than de-facto recognition as a separate state ... and all under the infuriating pretext of "we voted Yes to the Annan Plan (which was about reunification) so now we should be rewarded (with de facto partition)". If you think TCs are angry about the stance of the GC leadership, try asking GCs how angry they are about the stance of the TC leadership.

[boulio]

the famagusta measures were a excellent idea.

[insan]

No Insan, that's not what I meant ... it is good if the embargos are lifted, very good, but not in such a way as to encourage secessionist tendencies. The lifting of the embargos should take place within a wider package of confidence building measures, where both communities feel they have won something.

The "yes" vote of %65 of TCs didn't ensure majority of GCs that what TCs want is reunification. Why? According to majority of GCs it was a partition plan and that's why majority of TCs voted yes. Moreover, TCs voted yes because of the EU carrot. Right? So if majority of TCs are seperatists and solely runing after their self-interests after the 30 years lasted embargos, what you still expect from them, under the same circumstances?

The offer to re-open Famagusta and in return allow the operation of Famagusta harbor was an example of such a confidence-building measure, which would have allowed free trade, created thousands of jobs for TCs in order to rebuild Famagusta, and, above all, would get GCs and TCs working together on something for the first time in decades .... but it was rejected by the TC leadership which preferred to resort to a rhetoric of anti-GC hatred, and go straight to the EU in order to demand, well, nothing less than de-facto recognition as a separate state ... and all under the infuriating pretext of "we voted Yes to the Annan Plan (which was about reunification) so now we should be rewarded (with de facto partition). If you think TCs are angry about the stance of the GC leadership, try asking GCs how angry they are about the stance of the TC leadership.

Alexandros,

Turkish side had proposed similar confidence building-measures about one year before the Greek side has proposed their own confidence building measures. Tassos had rejected Turkish sides's proposals and claimed that Turkish side tried to create international impressions in order to bypass a comprehensive solution based upon Annan Plan. Then, when international community negatively reacted to Tassos' stance and GC's no vote, Tassos and his team developed a new policy to confront the negative effects of the no vote. The proposals(so-called measures for TCs), he and his team prepared; were to remove the negative effects and impressions of the no stance of GC leadership. It was a clearly seen trap for TCs after the referandum. So why should TCs accept such insincere proposals of GC leadership in addition to this whole world has promised them lifting the isolations? It was Tassos who didn't exert no effort to get what he wants, in dream of "European solution". What should TCs do? Did you expect them to wait Tassos "European solution" which is nothing but a dream?