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[polis]

According to the ACTA website. the total number of Turkish Cypriot casualties between the 1st January 1965 and the 19th July 1974 are 11. There are no casualties between the 26th July 1967 and the 19th July 1974. Interesting, huh?

The list of victims along with the dates and places of death is the following (from http://www.atcanews.org/archive/HISTORI ... GROUND.pdf).

"TURKS MARTYRED IN 1965 & 1967

Name (Age), Place, Date

1. Zühtü Mehmet Emir Ali (35), Ktima, Mart 1965
2. Zihni Hasan (60), Polis, Mayıs 1965
3. Behri Yusuf Lambiro (40), Larnaka, 5.5.1965
4. Salih Mustafa (25), Limasol, 17.2.1966
5. Şükrü Hasan (30), Xero bölgesi, Haziran 1966
6. Ramadan Şeker Ali (42), Mathiati bölgesi, 18.7.1965
7. Ali Hüseyin (49), Baf-Mandria yolu, 25.7.1967
8. Mehmet Mehdi Ziba (51), Baf-Mandria yolu, 25.7.1967
9. Fuat Mulla Salih (49), Baf, 25.7.1967
10. Şükrü Redif (57), Ktima, 25.7.1967
11. Şefik Şükrü (20), Ktima, 25.7.1967"

The website also has a list of 500 missing person (http://www.atcanews.org/archive/missing.pdf) which mostly duplicates the names of those listed as "martyred" in the previous document. For exampled the victims of the Aloa/Maratha and Tochni massacres are listed both as "martyred" and "missing".

On the Greek side there are a few thousand Greek Cypriots "martyred" or "missing" in the hands of the Turkish army, the Turkish Cypriot "security forces" and the Turkish Cypriot militias.

[Sotos]

It was written before that the fights were from 63 to 67. But the Turks like to stretch that to 74 to use it as an excuse for the invasion

[free_cyprus]

point being what are we competing in this forum to see who killed more people or are we compete to justify who is wrong and who is right i like to know since we all know cypriots betrayed cypriots and killed many many of our own poeople comiting crimes agains us and you wankers still go on about numbers its not bad enough our own people fucking became traitors and comited crimes against us you lot still want to blame others there is no fucking others its very simple turkish speaking and greek speaking people of cyprus became egents of turkey and greece they took orders from ankara and athens and they done the bad deeds against our own people in cyprus what is soooo fucking hard o understand about this and you lot are always fucking about with numbers and who is more of the victime

[Pyrpolizer]

Just having a tour at that site can enlighten all of you of what:

1)Fascist authoritarian Ottoman mentality means
2)Deprivation of freedom of speech means (you can only discuss how TRashNcan will be "recognised" and nothing against the so called "spirit" of the forum
3)What the meaning of Cypriot is for them GC
4)How much freeedom of speech we enjoy in this forum. THANK YOU ADMIN.
5)That they prefer annexation to Turkey than ANY solution, or partition.

You can get banned even if you dare compare Eoka with the "brave" TMT men. There was a guy there called Bidane (from Australia) who was banned for that. Birkibrisli was that you?

NB. And an optimistic note:They have about 5 frequent posters, they post about 3 posts total a day, and the most moderate of them is 10 times worse than VP and 3 times worse than Zan.

[polis]

point being what are we competing in this forum to see who killed more people or are we compete to justify who is wrong and who is right i like to know since we all know cypriots betrayed cypriots and killed many many of our own poeople comiting crimes agains us and you wankers still go on about numbers its not bad enough our own people fucking became traitors and comited crimes against us you lot still want to blame others there is no fucking others its very simple turkish speaking and greek speaking people of cyprus became egents of turkey and greece they took orders from ankara and athens and they done the bad deeds against our own people in cyprus what is soooo fucking hard o understand about this and you lot are always fucking about with numbers and who is more of the victime

No, we are competing in this forum to see to what length the Turkish Cypriot majority is willing to delude itself in order to justify the current situation in Cyprus.

[Sotos]

3)What the meaning of Cypriot is for them GC

Can you expand on that? They don't see themselves as Cypriot?

NB. And an optimistic note:They have about 5 frequent posters, they post about 3 posts total a day, and the most moderate of them is 10 times worse than VP and 3 times worse than Zan.

Does this mean Zan is 3 times worst than VP?

[polis]

point being what are we competing in this forum to see who killed more people or are we compete to justify who is wrong and who is right i like to know since we all know cypriots betrayed cypriots and killed many many of our own poeople comiting crimes agains us and you wankers still go on about numbers its not bad enough our own people fucking became traitors and comited crimes against us you lot still want to blame others there is no fucking others its very simple turkish speaking and greek speaking people of cyprus became egents of turkey and greece they took orders from ankara and athens and they done the bad deeds against our own people in cyprus what is soooo fucking hard o understand about this and you lot are always fucking about with numbers and who is more of the victime

... and then again, it's about how some Greek Cypriots are willing to delude themselves in an attempt to come to terms with the current situation in Cyprus.

[polis]

This is by far my favourite post from the ATC forum:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:39 pm

Post subject: WHY CAN I APOLOGISE TO A TÜRK BUT NOT TO A GREEK

There have been alot of disagreements and arguements lately on the forum, alot of which I have been a party to.

This morning furious by an overnite posting from another forum member `I lost it´I was convinced this other forum member was a greek spy who had infiltrated our forum and was happily insulting, Turks, Turkish Cypriots, and ALL things Turkish, I could not control my anger and began to call him every insult I could think of in my posting on the forum.
I then had to attend to some business which required me to leave the office, all day I was ill at ease `what if he was not a greek , `what if he was just a misguided Turk, or a Turk with very different views to me.
Although I hated the statements he had posted, I began to feel very uncomfortable about insulting him in such a way, in addition as I read a posting from Brother Mumin Turk I was reminded of a qoute from the Qur àn:

Obey God and his messenger and do not quarrel amongst yourselves, lest you loose heart and your momentun disappear. And be steadfast. God is with the steadfast.

I ammediately posted an apology to the forum member, because of one reason and one reason ONLY, I did not know 100% that he was a greek spy and not some kind of Turk, whether diluted or what ever, a Turk!
My point is this: why can I apologise to someone for using the same words and expressing the same thoughts only because I am not sure that they are not Turkish.

This must mean that despite claiming I am not a hateful person deep in side I hate Greeks, maybe because of what they have done to the Turkish population in the past and still continue to do! I dont know.
I believe this therefore must also apply to alot of greeks, even if on the surface they believe they are not hateful of Turks, deep inside there is hatred, almost a natural born hatred of one another, of another race, another religion, an enemy.

I do not think I can ever change my feelings and lack of patience towards greeks, and I believe there are many greeks who feel the same as me, therefore we are all as guilty as each other and can only co-exist separated in our opposite ends of our Island the greeks in the south and the Turks in the North!

Maybe this way we can live and let live, despite what has happened in the past!

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by Ottoman

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THE REUNIFICATION DREAM:
A temporary state of insanity cured by the nightmare of war!

[Get Real!]

Just having a tour at that site can enlighten all of you of what:

1)Fascist authoritarian Ottoman mentality means
2)Deprivation of freedom of speech means (you can only discuss how TRashNcan will be "recognised" and nothing against the so called "spirit" of the forum
3)What the meaning of Cypriot is for them GC
4)How much freeedom of speech we enjoy in this forum. THANK YOU ADMIN.
5)That they prefer annexation to Turkey than ANY solution, or partition.

You can get banned even if you dare compare Eoka with the "brave" TMT men. There was a guy there called Bidane (from Australia) who was banned for that. Birkibrisli was that you?

NB. And an optimistic note:They have about 5 frequent posters, they post about 3 posts total a day, and the most moderate of them is 10 times worse than VP and 3 times worse than Zan.

That's precisely why it must be infiltrated and in such a way that banning is impossible...

[free_cyprus]

and your point being what polis........................... what is all this i have to read in this forum i cannot believe our people are sooo thick it defies imagination