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[free_cyprus]

Get Real!
the manifesto i have its to drastic for little minds like yourself you cannot even grasp what the feck im talking about how you going to understand a long term solution on a map lol

[Get Real!]

Get Real!
the manifesto i have its to drastic for little minds like yourself you cannot even grasp what the feck im talking about how you going to understand a long term solution on a map lol

Drastic eh? And here I was thinking you were just a peaceful geezer “gifted” with a foul mouth!

Well, why don’t you post the "FC Manifesto"? We are all holding our breath here in anticipation...

[free_cyprus]

Get Real!
your to stupid to know how to hold your breath i wrote this very same thing last night but it looks like it has gone stray ohhh i also told you to fuck off if you didint get that message then im sure you will get this one

[zan]

According to the ACTA website. the total number of Turkish Cypriot casualties between the 1st January 1965 and the 19th July 1974 are 11. There are no casualties between the 26th July 1967 and the 19th July 1974. Interesting, huh?

The list of victims along with the dates and places of death is the following (from http://www.atcanews.org/archive/HISTORI ... GROUND.pdf).

"TURKS MARTYRED IN 1965 & 1967

Name (Age), Place, Date

1. Zühtü Mehmet Emir Ali (35), Ktima, Mart 1965
2. Zihni Hasan (60), Polis, Mayıs 1965
3. Behri Yusuf Lambiro (40), Larnaka, 5.5.1965
4. Salih Mustafa (25), Limasol, 17.2.1966
5. Şükrü Hasan (30), Xero bölgesi, Haziran 1966
6. Ramadan Şeker Ali (42), Mathiati bölgesi, 18.7.1965
7. Ali Hüseyin (49), Baf-Mandria yolu, 25.7.1967
8. Mehmet Mehdi Ziba (51), Baf-Mandria yolu, 25.7.1967
9. Fuat Mulla Salih (49), Baf, 25.7.1967
10. Şükrü Redif (57), Ktima, 25.7.1967
11. Şefik Şükrü (20), Ktima, 25.7.1967"

The website also has a list of 500 missing person (http://www.atcanews.org/archive/missing.pdf) which mostly duplicates the names of those listed as "martyred" in the previous document. For exampled the victims of the Aloa/Maratha and Tochni massacres are listed both as "martyred" and "missing".

On the Greek side there are a few thousand Greek Cypriots "martyred" or "missing" in the hands of the Turkish army, the Turkish Cypriot "security forces" and the Turkish Cypriot militias.

In November 1967, fighting had again broken out in the island. Units of the National Guard and the Greek Cypriot police participated in the attack to two Turkish villages. “The operation was ferocious in its intensity and effect” (Denktash, Cyprus Triangle 50). Twenty-eight Turks were murdered in a few hours and Turkey and Greece were thus brought to the brink of war again. President Johnson sent Vance to find an immediate settlement of the renewed crisis. Although the possibility of a war between Turkey and Greece was so remote according to U.S, they felt the need of finding a peaceful negotiation. In this period the U.S. administration concentrated its capabilities on the prevention of war. In 1967 different from 1964 America “not only urged restraint on Turkey, but also effectively influenced Greece to compromise” (Bölükbaþý 152). However, still Vance’s arrival in Ankara was taken as an another attempt of America to prevent Turkey’s intervention. The crisis was defused when United States mediation brought an agreement that endured for the next seven years. “All foreign troops in excess of those permitted by the Treaty of Alliance were to be removed from Cyprus, and the National Guard was to be dismantled in exchange for an immediate Turkish demobilization” (Solsten 217). However as it was later discovered that several thousand mainland Greek troops and officers were continued to be attached to the Greek Cypriot National Guard. (Denktash, Cyprus Triangle 51)


I think there is a whole post dedicated to this propaganda that is spread about by the Greeks.http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10202

[zan]

And then you guys lost total control.....


After 1967 intercommunual strife was overshadowed. During six years of continuing peace, both Turkish and Greek Cypriots led a political life of their own. Peace prevailed between the two communities until the coming back of Grivas to the island in 1971. During that period Greek Junta began to see Makarios as an obstacle to Enosis. Papadopoulos and others “reached the conclusion that Makarios would never settle the Cyprus problem, whether by Enosis, double Enosis, or essential compromises with Turkish Cypriots” (Hart 130). Furthermore, when in 1973, a new junta came to power, matters became worse. Even the sudden death of Grivas did not better the events. On 15 July 1974 a coup led by Nicos Sampson destroyed the Presidential Palace and overthrew Makarios. However they failed to kill Makarios, who has fled with British help. Sampson immediately told that the negotiations would continue but this was not convincing. He was planning to unite Cyprus with Greece if Turkey had not intervened.


http://web.deu.edu.tr/kibris/articles/hist.html

[shahmaran]

So we don't have to go THAT far to find some exquisite GC BULLSHIT afer all!

[Pyrpolizer]

Zan I bet you are not man enough to tell us your nickname at Atca.

[Get Real!]

http://web.deu.edu.tr/kibris/articles/hist.html

This is all your propaganda link has to say about...

"During the Treaty of Lausanne(1923) in which the Allied Powers recognized the Turkish Republic, United States remained as an observer, but re-establishment of formal diplomatic relations remained minimal at the time."

Cute aint it?

[zan]

Zan I bet you are not man enough to tell us your nickname at Atca.

I was hoping that you would do some detective work and draw some charts and then write a computer program and sit down and analyse it all then come back and tell me. I thought it would be fun for you. Go on.........Have a go. I have got nothing to hide.....If you get it right I will tell you.

[Pyrpolizer]

Like I said you are not man enough to tell.