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by **Kifeas** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:25 pm

shahmaran wrote:No! What we want is proper solutions, not petty give-aways, i rather see all my crops ROT under the trees than have to work under the RoCs "sympathy", fuck them, Papadacocksucker can shove his packages up his arsehole for all i care, it will probably do him much more good there anyways, the rotten cunt!

Shahmaran, the 200,000 Greek Cypriots that your motherland had striped them necked and usurped all their homes and properties, after kicking them out from the ancestral lands in the now occupied north areas of their country, also want and demand proper solutions, but no one of you seems ready to provide them! Not only that, but you also seem more than ready to always ignore and downplay them! Are you ready to establish to all these 200,000 GCs their for 33 years violated human and property rights, in exchange of having your rights respected? Or you only just want to have your cake and eat it too?

Furthermore, what do you have to comment on this news article?

CoE Ministers urge Turkey
implement Rights Court
judgements without delay

By Angelos Marcopoulos
STRASBOURG
TURKEY must implement the judgements of the European Human Rights Court ordering it to restore the usurped properties of the Greek Cypriot refugees from the Turkish-occupied north without further delay, the Ministerial Committee of the Council of Europe ruled yesterday.
Turkey was warned that its obligation to comply with the Court's judgements "entails an obligation to adopt measures to put an end to the violation found, to erase, as far as possible, their consequences and to prevent new violations similar to those found.''
It added that the need to adopt such measures in this case, is all the more pressing in view of the time elapsed since the Court's ruling six years ago.
The CoE Ministers also warned that "a continuation of Turkey's failure to implement the Court's judgements would amount to a manifest breach of Turkey's obligations under Article 46-1 of the (European) Convention on Human Rights.'"
The Foreign Ministers from the 45 CoE member states also formally "urged the Turkish authorities to provide detailed and concrete information on changes and transfers of Property at issue in (Rights Court) judgement...and on measures to safeguard the property rights of displaced Greek Cypriots recognised by the Court."
The ministers also expressed "concern" that despite "regular requests" from the CoE for Turkey to act, "Turkey's response does not yet clarify the issue," and formally urged Turkey ``to act now without delay."

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default. ... wsID=304_4

by **shahmaran** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:34 pm

To be honest if you are going to be a dick about it, ill stick to my cake, however everything is negotiable in this world right? isnt that your plan as well anyway? i mean why else would you say NO to our last real attempt to make a radical change to this 30 year old situation...

by **humanist** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:52 pm

No! What we want is proper solutions, not petty give-aways, i rather see all my crops ROT under the trees than have to work under the RoCs "sympathy", fuck them, Papadacocksucker can shove his packages up his arsehole for all i care, it will probably do him much more good there anyways, the rotten cunt!

Shahmaran I believe this is yet another example of turkish speaking cypriots and leadership wanting partition and not a solution to the Cyprus problem. Yes northern Cyprus will eventually get independece but not for another 50 od years. In the mean time refugee properties will double and tripple in value so the property commission will give us more money for our stolen properties.

by **Kifeas** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:54 pm

shahmaran wrote:To be honest if you are going to be a dick about it, ill stick to my cake, however everything is negotiable in this world right? isnt that your plan as well anyway? i mean why else would you say NO to our last real attempt to make a radical change to this 30 year old situation...

We said no because it was a proposal largely unbalanced and one sided. It took away from GCs way more legitimate rights than it returned back to them, and gave you way more privileges in the expense of the GC community, in exchange of returning only a small part of what you illegitimately acquired in 1974. We said no because the rejected proposal gave to your community, which now numbers only 15% of the Cypriot population (it was 18.4% in 1960 and 1974,) the ethnic ownership of 30% of Cyprus territory, while it also made you a 33% to 50% partner of the federal government. I do not say that because you now only own the 15% of Cyprus shares, you should get only 15% of the power sharing and government participation, but on the other hand, isn't 33% to 50% way too much? Why you cannot be happy with 20% or 25% (still much more than your actual human and property share,) and instead you want up to 50%?

If I illegitimately take 5 pounds from you and you illegitimately take 15 pounds from me, it is not a proper deal to return to you 10 pounds instead of 5, in exchange of you returning me only 5 out of the 15 that you owe me. Don't you think so? Why is this so complicated for you to understand? And why since the leaders of our two communities have made an agreement on the 8th of July 2006 to negotiate anew the solution of the Cyprus issue, your leader, Mr. Talat, now backtracks and deserts from the negotiating process?

by **Kifeas** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:05 pm

shahmaran wrote:To be honest if you are going to be a dick about it, ill stick to my cake, however everything is negotiable in this world right? isnt that your plan as well anyway? i mean why else would you say NO to our last real attempt to make a radical change to this 30 year old situation...

Be a dick about what? Apparently, it is okay for you to be a dick about your rights, and even curse and insult, but it is not okay for the others. You are a very double standard and unprincipled person, shahmaran! Why so? Is it because uncle (or father) Mustafa Kemal has taught you that "one Turk equals the whole world?"

by **shahmaran** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:07 am

Kifeas wrote:
shahmaran wrote:To be honest if you are going to be a dick about it, ill stick to my cake, however everything is negotiable in this world right? isnt that your plan as well anyway? i mean why else would you say NO to our last real attempt to make a radical change to this 30 year old situation...

Be a dick about what? Apparently, it is okay for you to be a dick about your rights, and even curse and insult, but it is not okay for the others. You are a very double standard and unprincipled person, shahmaran! Why so? Is it because uncle (or father) Mustafa Kemal has taught you that "one Turk equals the whole world?"

Oh yeah that's exactly it! Well done there Kifeas, totally caught me red handed! I mean i know you HATE Turks and specially Ataturk, but come on man, what do you take us for, morons?!?

Correct me if i am wrong but didnt you fuck us over in the 60s because we didnt have enough say in the government? Have the GCs not tried every possible means to OWN this island? Including genocide?

Let us do our own thing for a while and sort ourselves out, then we can talk about unification, no point in expecting us to cave in to your disgracefull politics so that you can urgently "get your houses back", screw that, im not in a hurry, i haven't taken anyones house, why should i have to use YOUR ports, why should i have to put up with this prosecutive policy that i do not deserve, if i am a Cypriot as well, why am i being treated like a criminal??

Because the RoC is made up of racist people like Kifeas?! Well screw them too, I'm still young, i don't mind sticking around like this until all these racist hags are gone so we can REALLY get somewhere...

My grandpa used to be a citrus exporter, he used to tell me plenty on how well the GC controlled ports worked, and how much shit he had to put up with, and this is bearly the tip of the iceberg, so cut the crap Kifeas, there was obviously never any "fairness" on this island.

No wonder the TCs are so skeptical about everything... :roll: