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[humanist]

Those that live on GC property are opportunist carpetbaggers, I despise them more than the facists/nationalists on the island. I am amazed that the GCs allow them to go the south to buy things they can't get in the north. They whinge about the GCs, quoting Akritas to justify their thieving but they are more than happy to use the ROC when it suits them. There is a website in the north run by a brit, sometimes interesting but always back slapping and self congratulatory about the wonderful time they are having on someone elses property. As Jeremy Clarkson once said, " may the fleas of a thousand camels infest their underpants" forever (knickers too).

Jerry, people have to live somewhere, there are genuine cases, wher people had to take a home when they moved up north. What shits me are those who sell refugee propertty and more so the f-----g brits who buy it. I have no respect for Talat, as he encourages thieves to sell refugee property, but the most disgusting thing that I have heard in the north was the confiscation of property belonging to the residents of Rizokarpaso, if that is not cruel nasty and in violation of human rights I don't know what is. The UN is a shit hole organisation run by americans for american interests.

[humanist]

Sotos I am in full support if your posts and I find it offensive when Brits and Irish support the illegal regime and therefore the lies and criminal activity that goes on over there.

[sweetie pie]

askimwos
to answer your question on why britain is sitting back and watching whats going on in north of cyprus is very simple. do you think they are going to do anything when they are co conspiritors to devide ths island of cyprus along with turkey and greece

People are free to make their own mistakes. Britain/the government may be all you say BUT they have no control over what some few foolish British do with their money.

[sweetie pie]

Newsman
heres perfect example and i have had this conversation with many irish people in the past heres asimple question for you iraland is sooooooooooooooooooooooo close to england scorland and wales. you can shout from the uk and with a little help from the wind it can be heard in ireland........................... now ehres my questionf or you newsman ......................................you speak english does that amke you english or irish ..........................perhaps we can use this as a little example to the thich brained cypriots who do not know the difereance between speaking a language and being what they are supposed to be

People from England, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland speak english but are british as per the passport. For example, their roots may be Scottish as they were born in Scotland, but they are British Citizens.
People from Cyprus speak Greek but are Cypriot. Apart from language and religion they are Cypriots. Wave the flag and stop with the Greek nonsense!

and the Turkish nonsense

[sweetie pie]

Sotos I am in full support if your posts and I find it offensive when Brits and Irish support the illegal regime and therefore the lies and criminal activity that goes on over there.

Those who bought land in the North years ago did it without understanding the ramifications of what they were doing and I am sure they did not understand the politics of it all. Since all the exposure of the politics, those who buy, and there might not be as many as you suppose, are foolish in the extreme.
I know for a fact that people would like to buy in the North but will not for the above reasons. My brother for one. He was offered a property with the assurance that the title deeds were TC and pre 74. He found out they weren't but only because he knew what he was looking for and his wife is TC and could understand the documentation.

[Simon]

[quote]People from England, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland speak english but are british as per the passport. For example, their roots may be Scottish as they were born in Scotland, but they are British Citizens.
People from Cyprus speak Greek but are Cypriot. Apart from language and religion they are Cypriots. Wave the flag and stop with the Greek nonsense![/quote]

Twinkle I think you are missing the point here. Yes, as a nationality, the people are British; however, as an ethnicity, the people are English, Scottish or Welsh. That is why you hear people of Asian descent in Britain calling themselves British-Indians or Pakistanis, for example; you don't hear them say English-Indian do you? Because there ethnicity in Indian and not English. Indeed, Scotland may soon receive independence from the rest of the UK, due to a rise in nationalism there. Therefore, applying this to Cyprus, you could say Cypriots are ethnically Greek and Turkish predominately, but their nationality is Cypriot. This I agree with; and indeed, it is what it says in our constitution for god's sake! I cannot understand why people in this Forum (and I'm not just referring to you Twinkle, but talking generally) constantly go on about this, to me it is not an issue. This in my opinion does not stop us re-uniting today. Nobody is asking us to give up our identity, apart from a few idiots. What is important for reunification, is TRUST and RESPECT. Gain trust, and the rest will follow. Cyprus is multi-cultural and probably always has been; let us not purge this from our island but celebrate it as one of the unique characteristics of Cyprus.

[free_cyprus]

Simon
Therefore, applying this to Cyprus, you could say Cypriots are ethnically Greek and Turkish predominately, but their nationality is Cypriot. This I agree with; and indeed, it is what it says in our constitution for god's sake! I cannot understand why people in this Forum (and I'm not just referring to you Twinkle, but talking generally) constantly go on about this, to me it is not an issue. This in my opinion does not stop us re-uniting today. Nobody is asking us to give up our identity, apart from a few idiots. What is important for


do you think having a constitution that is a lot of shit and that does not benefit the cypriot people one aito is just and legal simon..if i said to you heres acup of poison would you drink it bollox you would sooo why the feck you keep refering to 1960 agreement that was designed and writen by turkey greece and britain did anyone ask us in cyprus what we want feck no..........................you know why cos we dont have a voice in cyprus ohhhhhhh i forgot we do have a voice its called turkish speaking and greek speaking voices that remind us or try to make us believe we are turkish and greek on the island of cyprus when we have been fucked over all through histroy by anyone who had power but suddenly miraculasly we became greek and turkish

[free_cyprus]

sotos im sorry to hear about your property i m also sorry to hear about everyone who has lost their homes turkish speaking and greek speaking im also sorry to hear that a many cypriot lives were lost turkish speaking and greek speaking im sorry that our so called leaders at the time sided with turkey and greece to create all this problems im sorry that still all this hate is going on in cyprus through the leaders approval turkish speaking and greek speak but nothing in this world makes me feel soorry for anything in this world as im sorry that our people of cyprus do not have the brains enough to realise we have been sold out by our own people soooooo noooo tell me sotos is your house worth a life is any fecking house worth a life.......... we should try and at least put forth some real and constructive way to move forward and find a solition instead of blaming your house has been stolen peoples lives have been stolen from all over cyprus i lost an uncle i have to live with it

[Simon]

Free Cyprus said:

[quote]if i said to you heres acup of poison would you drink it bollox [/quote]

If the alternative was listening to you all day then I probably would drink it.

[miltiades]

I'm a passionate Cypriot , but a realist also , and in Cyprus we have Greek Cypriots , not GREEK SPEAKERS , and Turkish Cypriots , NOT TURKISH SPEAKERS . As Simon states above in the UK there are British Scots , English Welsh , Asian , Afrocaribean etc etc.Those that are passionate Cypriots , like my self , apart from speaking Greek , or Turkish , also have a myriad of elements combined together and affording to them the Greek or Turkish Cypriot description. By saying that I m a Greek Cypriot I'm stating that my parents , grandparents and beyond spoke Greek , were Christians , took part in celebrations generally attributed to Hellenic ideals , and of course the Turkish Cypriots did precisely the same . We must not misunderstand our Greek or Turkish Cypriot identity with either Greece or Turkey. I do not call my self a Greek but a Cypriot , if asked as to whether I'm Greek or Turkish I will reply that I'm a Cypriot Greek. At this stage let me say that my " Cypriotness " is way way above my "Greeknes" .

Having made interacted for years now with Turkish Cypriots has immensely helped me to understand their feelings and aspirations , also their general outlook as regards Turkey and their own identity , and have come to the conclusion that not one iota separates our two peoples. They will celebrate the Turkish national days , they will support the Turkish football team and they will reciprocate respect . Every time I say something uncomplimentary about Turkey , I always think that my remarks could be offensive to so many of my T/C friends , that in itself is sufficient to drive me towards understanding more about this great nation that once , not so long ago , ruled most of Europe.