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[free_cyprus]

the problem of cyprus lies in the system they have created on both sides turkish speaking and greek speaking from the people who are in power all the way down education sponcers hate between cypriots when there is only one cypriots. people who have goverment posts as work constantly use their position to feed hate towards others this is true on both sides......... people who are in power are the worse kind fo traiters to cyprus becouse they are either still actively involved with tmt or eoka............. not only do we have this in our own living room in cyprus then we have turkey tellign them what to do what to say and how to say it on the otherside we have greece telling them what to do telling them what to say and how to say it on top of that we have britain and america telling greece and turkey waht to do and how to do things as you can see the ordinary people of cyprus who want to live in peace and harmony are bottom of the chain top of the chain in cyprus is the traitors whos hould be tried for treason but us cypriots we do not have such powers to carry out all this investigation and bring forth the truth about these people so all we can do is trivial things like point out dates and times that crimes were cimmited in cyprus against cyprus people the truth of the matter is most of those crimes were comited by cypriots wgo became agents of turkey and greece on the orders of ankara and athens they killed our fellow men and our sisters and mothers and fathers in cyprus...................... and yet when i post something here people are all up in arms as if i have said somethign wrong im speaking about my island my cyprus my people

[Pyrpolizer]

@Eric

Hey BASH-TURK asshole go to Greece and do your fights with them.
Here is Cyprus...

Pyro, do I sense you reminiscing your disco days with that new avatar?

Sort of, but no disco I hate indoor dancing.

You should try it GR. At a lonely beach, either at night by the fire, or full daylight noon time.. You will never forget it.



Careful though some idiots might be watching you with binoculars.

NB.Precondition:You must be fully naked, otherwise it doesn't work

[Viewpoint]

Shahmaran, I support a united Cyprus where all Cypriots live together in peace harmony, respect and acceptance of difference. I do not support divison of Cyprus under any circumstance, I do not and have never accepted Turkey's dispicable acts and violations of human rights of Cypriots and including in that turkish speaking cypriots. If turkey genuinely wanted the betterment of turkish Cypriots they would have had a better life by now. And I do not mean the very few who have benefited from the current division but the majority of turkish speaking cypriots.

I sit back sometimes and wonder how a turkish speaking family would feel knowing that the home they are living in, is not theirs and that one day they stand to be uprooted yet again. I wonder what it feels being a turkish speaking cypriot knowing that on the other side of the divide people consider them thieves. I wonder what this means for a persons psyche and self esteem. Recently I read an article from a turkish speaking cypriot scholar/ doctor talking about a depressed society in the north. I wonder whetehr Mr talat and his regime who stand to gain most from the current division of cyprus are thinking and have thought for years about the plight of the working class turkish speaking cypriot who was up rooted from their village in Paphos and has been told Cyprus is not your homeland but this fake regime we have created is your country a country that is not recognised by anyone else in the world except this violent abhorent motherland called Turkey.

I wonder if the powers that be that sit in Ankara enjoying the power, wealth and manipulation really think of some 90,000 turkish speaking cypriots who are slowly but surely becoming a minority in their so called country being turkified and out numbered. I wonder if they care. I assure you none the least do they care. Whilst turkey is developing and growing and surving on american dollar the turkish speakers are leaving in droves. Why do turkish speaking cypriots travel each day to work in the south, why do they use RoC public health? if the answer is they are getting an income, they are better off doing this then the regime in the north has failed them for 32 years and another 32 to come. It is time for solution so that these people can get on with their lives. Talat doesn't give a shit, he lives in the prestigious part of Lefkosia, he drives in a mercedes benz he is on a good salary probably owns companies as well.

Turkish speaking cypriots are manipulated each and every day, wait we will get end to isolation then we will be independent, do you really thik that will be possible if it did not happen in the past 32 years what makes you guys think it will happen now or in another 32 years. The greeks will opse it with all might because they feel hard done by, I will support economic embargo as long as I live. Because I do not believe that people have the right to invcade a country, kill people and be rewarded for it.

The best option is to get on to work immediately to come to a long lasting solution wher all cypriots are free to practice what they believ so long as it does not harm another, provide policies that ensure safety for individauls against racism and discrimination, to share the resources equally in a united european cyprus. Talat needs to wake up that this is an opportunity to resolve the issues. Or Cyprus will not be unified or permanantly partitioned for another 50 years till my generation and that before me drops off. Whilst we are dropping off the same generations in the north are also dropping off, that is the reality, my friend.

Total rubbish, very one sided, you have not really progressed at all from your greedy GC brothers of the 1960s.

[askimwos]

Here comes agent provocater

Where have you been mate? It seems that in your absence things got a bit more civilised and discussion actually took place.

Nice post by the way - very dismissive and vp like...

[Viewpoint]

Here comes agent provocater

Where have you been mate? It seems that in your absence things got a bit more civilised and discussion actually took place.

Nice post by the way - very dismissive and vp like...

Thank you can you provide one balanced sentence in the above post by someone who hasnt even been to the TRNC and therefore is unable to provide a balanced viewpoint.

[Get Real!]

@Eric

Hey BASH-TURK asshole go to Greece and do your fights with them.
Here is Cyprus...

Pyro, do I sense you reminiscing your disco days with that new avatar?

Sort of, but no disco I hate indoor dancing.

You should try it GR. At a lonely beach, either at night by the fire, or full daylight noon time.. You will never forget it.


Careful though some idiots might be watching you with binoculars.

NB.Precondition:You must be fully naked, otherwise it doesn't work

You're cracking onto me you sly fox! [slap] [slap]

[askimwos]

Here comes agent provocater

Where have you been mate? It seems that in your absence things got a bit more civilised and discussion actually took place.

Nice post by the way - very dismissive and vp like...

Thank you can you provide one balanced sentence in the above post by someone who hasnt even been to the TRNC and therefore is unable to provide a balanced viewpoint.

Vp its funny that one single post can upset both GC nationalists and TC nationists like yourself. This thing alone proves that a post is balanced.
Of course the post is seen as unbalanced by someone who has made partition his only task, so I am not surprised. And before dismissing this be aware that not one but 3 TCs families described in the same exact way their feelings when I asked them how they feel about

I have been in the north several times and whenever I go there I take the time to talk to everyday people in the street and in the cafenes or the shops. In most cases I saw what humanist describes as an invisible veil of depression in his post. TCs do feel that these houses do not belong to them and that they are there temporarily, this feeling has intensified when the boarders opened and GC visited their houses. At this point we have to give credit to both the TCs that opened the houses and invited the GC owners in to have a look, by doing so they actively accepted the fact that these houses do not belong to them. GCs should also be given credit because in the majority of cases understood that for this awkward situation these people shouldn't get any blame and that they were somehow forced to move in their houses. I have been an eyewitness in several cases that both the GC owners and TC residents of a house that did not know each other hanged each other and cried on each others shoulder about the plight of our people. Needless to say that I couldn't hold my tears either. I bet that even a heart made out of stone would have cracked at such a sight.

But I guess Vp nationalists from both sides will be quick to either ignore or dismiss all the above and somehow twist things and present them in a way that suits their cause. Well, go on and tell us how we cannot live together and how TCs don't feel safe living with their GC compatriots, go on and refer to the past in order to find some arguments supporting your views. What I described above is something that is happening everyday for the last 3 years, in other words TODAY.

You see the difference between you and me is that you selectively chose to refer to the PAST and to ignore things that happen every day around you.

PS: I guess the feeling of living in someone elses house is similar to that of living on rent. You may want to improve the house and do so redecoration but you are always held back not to spend much because this house does not belong to you and spending too much on it is not a wise decision since you may be asked to vacate the house by the end of your contract. This alone weaves another thread to the above described veil of depression. Be aware that this example was given to me by not one but 3 TC families when I asked them how they feel about living in a house that belongs to someone else.

[Viewpoint]

askimwos Tcs have learned to be realists and they are all aware that one day they may have to return disputed propoerty a good example of this is the Guzelyurt region that voted heavily in favor of the demonized AP although it meant they would have move for a 3rd time some even more. So this for many TCs is acceptable and the fact that the majority opened their doors for GCs to have a look around is another indication that they would not object to returning property. Saying all this they are comforted by the fact that a solution does not seem like ever being found as they know that neither side is capable of closing the widening chasm between the 2 communites. Again I have to remind you that the people are not the problem on a 121 basis, the problem is the power sharing and security guarantees issues.

[free_cyprus]

when we have one cyprus that does not ask turkey and greece what we should do . when we have one cyprus that bans all history books from turkey and greece. when we have one cyprus where we dont have a single cypriot soldier on the island. when we have a cyprus that as long as your a cypriot you can run for elections when we have a cyprus that is united and enforces a law that makes it illigal for anyone on the island to refer to people as greeks and turks then we will be getting closer to our goal in cyprus to be one................. the cyprus desease is called turkish and greek. and cypriots are not even aware of this.................... having said that on a persona note i think cyprus will need a miracle to solve its problems when every single day there is propaganda towards the cypriot community to hate the sooo called other side our leaders are the worse kind we elect them becouse we think they have wisdom feck a farmer with no education can solve the cyprus problem in five min ........................................... president roselvelt once quoted........................ a poor hungry uneducated men will beak into a train cart and steal food to eat .....................but an educated men will steal the whole train including the railcarts

[humanist]

Total rubbish, very one sided, you have not really progressed at all from your greedy GC brothers of the 1960s.

What excactly is rubbish and one sided. How is wanting peace and unification by all Cypriots one sided greed, how is sharing good health care, employement and developments in oil exploration one sided and especially greek greed.

How is advocating for the turkish language to be taught in all school at all levels greed, how is advocating for assistance in re building abandoned turkish speaking cypriot property rubbish. I think that you have personally benefited from the current situation that you and your beloved leadership are willing to sacrifice your people to fill your pockets and your bellies and the hell with the rest of the cypriot population greek and turkish speakers. I know that you and shahmaran do not give a shit about greek speaking cypriots you have made that perfectly clear but I expect from your gloats that you would at least care for your own people. But then again that is left to interpretation about who is your own people.