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[Alexandros Lordos]

excellent work Dr.LORDOS

Thank you, for the honorary doctorate

[metecyp]

Good work!

Do you intend to combine this with your previous work with GCs and maybe come up with what can be agreed between TCs and GCs?

[-mikkie2-]

Alexandre,

The survey seems thorough so hopefully the results will be objective.

Just one question, did the survey discriminate between settlers and TC's or was it purely drawn from the TC population? Obviously this is important as it may add a skew to the results. Also, I assume that the people interviewed were from all over the north of the island and not taken from one particular geographic area.

In any case, it is really good that you did this and lets hope the TC and Turkish leadership take note of the results. I would hope they would not blame results that may go against the view of the TC 'ruling elite' (Insans favourite term ) on the fact that a GC initiated the survey!

Good work.

[Piratis]

D4. How long has your family been resident in Cyprus? (select one)

1. We have been here since before 1974 (1)
2. We came here between 1974 and 1979 (2)
3. We came here between 1980 and 1989 (3)
4. We came here between 1990 and 1999 (4)
5. We came here after the year 2000 (5)
6. My family has mixed through marriage – some of us have been here since before 1974, while others came later. (6)
7. No Response (7)

So I guess this means settlers were interviewed also? Is the only way to identify who is settler and who is TC the answer they gave to this question?

If settlers were interviewed then I think the responses of TCs and settlers should be presented separately and not as a whole.

[metecyp]

If settlers were interviewed then I think the responses of TCs and settlers should be presented separately and not as a whole.

I agree, but I don't think that there'll be huge opinion differences between TCs and settlers who came to the island long time ago. Maybe Alex can verify this, it'll be interesting to see.

[Alexandros Lordos]

Do you intend to combine this with your previous work with GCs and maybe come up with what can be agreed between TCs and GCs?

Yes, Metecyp, I'm now trying to write a paper in which the two surveys are combined ...

[turkcyp]

To my disapointment the surver more looks like

"what would you accepts as a chaneg to Annan Plan so that it is acceptable to GCs"

rather than

"what kind of changes do you want to Annan Plan"

I guess we have voted 'yes' to Annan Plan and GCs have voted 'no" so this means we will have to give in more and compromise more. Now we know that in the next referandum we should say 'no' so that in the coming third referandum we can get more, and this goes on for both side ad infinitum.

Good luck to all of us,

[Piratis]

The Annan plan was 90% of the Turkish demands, what more do you want? The 100%???

I guess we have voted 'yes' to Annan Plan and GCs have voted 'no" so this means we will have to give in more and compromise more. Now we know that in the next referandum we should say 'no' so that in the coming third referandum we can get more, and this goes on for both side ad infinitum.

If you say 'no' this will negate the benefits you got from your 'yes'. If you believe that the continuation of current status (minus the 'yes' benefits) are better than making some compromises then say 'no'.

[Alexandros Lordos]

So I guess this means settlers were interviewed also? Is the only way to identify who is settler and who is TC the answer they gave to this question?

Yes, settlers were also interviewed, but there was another question as well to discern them, the one about whether their parents were born in Cyprus or not.

Basically, the sample was "TRNC citizens", who would also be voting in a referendum if last year's practice was followed. "Illegal workers" - who would not be voting in a referendum anyway - were not surveyed.

From the question that Piratis quoted above, the results were that most settlers came in the 70s, then a smaller number in the 80s, and an even smaller number in the 90s (as I said before, this does not include the mass influx of unregistered workers which took place after the requirement to enter from Turkey with a passport was waived in the early 90s).

As metecyp suggests, there was not much variance in responses between original TCs and settlers ...

For instance, in the issue of whether more settlers should leave in case of a solution, a greater percent of the settlers found it unacceptable. However, a large proportion of the Turkish Cypriots also found it unacceptable. In the question of whether one could imagine having GC neighbours, more TCs than settlers responded Yes, but the difference was not that much.

If someone explains to me how I can copy/paste images in my message, you could all have a look at the relevant charts.

[turkcyp]

The Annan plan was 90% of the Turkish demands, what more do you want? The 100%???

How do you know that Annan Plan satisfied 90% of our demands. Did you see this in your dream last night. I am so sick of hearing in this forum from GCs waht we TCs want or do not want.

If you want to learn how I feel, you can read the other topic I have opened about "1960 constitution vs. Annan Plan" and learn my views.

If you say 'no' this will negate the benefits you got from your 'yes'. If you believe that the continuation of current status (minus the 'yes' benefits) are better than making some compromises then say 'no'.

Do not worry, when I see the new solution proposal I will read it thoroughly and made my decision accordingly. And if it is something better than the sitauation at hand then I will say 'yes' otherwise I will say 'no'.

I do not need you to tell me to accept or reject any proposal.