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[Simon]

Like what? Please don't tell me you're referring to the superior Turkic race? Oh brother.....

[shahmaran]

Shah I will ask you a simple question:

Who is the bravest soldier, a Turk or an American?

depends on why they are fighting my friend, that's why America always has issues in every war they go into because the soldiers are fighting over a shit cause and their opponents are desperately trying to defend their lands from the people they despise so much, so are ready to do whatever it takes, and that's exactly why everyone who fought us in Turkey lost very badly even if we were seriously outnumbered as men and were seriously disadvantaged as technology...

[shahmaran]

i guess that also kind of answers you Simon....

[Simon]

Well in that case, you have to recognise that a future war could be for any number of reasons. Therefore, you shouldn't be so confident of Turkey's so-called 'superiority.'

[shahmaran]

Well Turkey is not planning to invade anyone any time soon, the only talks here at the moment are only about Kerkuk and operations in Iraq to target the PKK camps near the border...

However, this thread came to be about RoC attacking Turkish troops, because this Sotos "genius" suggested that it would be a better option than trying to negotiate with the Turks, and that's a whole different story because Turks in Turkey or in the TRNC will defend their land no matter what the cost is, and I'm sure the GCs wont go down so easy either

i don't know who has military superiority on that island but I'm sure it will go way beyond our borders and it will be very VERY bloody, so for all our best interests, we should keep the guns out of this at all costs...

[Pyrpolizer]

Yes Shah, for the reasons you stated I believe the most stupid one will be the one who attacks the other, and that one will be the most likely to lose the war too.

Remember my topic where the cripled were marching at the parades so proud like idiots? Imagine how many we will see after that!

Don't talk about war you guys. You haven't seen a person dying from a bomb or a bullet, palpitating like a fish until he dies.. :cry::cry:

It will take you at least 10 years to pass over it. War is not a game on a computer, you see people you love dying, even if your "own" finally lets say "win".

[miltiades]

Shah Wrote!!!!!!!!
"" these people are probably so much more noble and spiritually advanced then most who live in the western world, but are being treated as brainless animals by the so called "civilised nations" """

They still stone people to death for fucks sake , what is NOBLE about a human being stone to death by barbarians chanting God is Great as the throw stones at a defenceless human. They are nothing short of savages , dont give shit what religion they have , and you call them "spiritually advanced " My arse , these ARE the brainless animals that you refer to not the civilized world that tolerated you and me and allowed us to express our views , to criticize this country without fear of persecution , to call the English Yobos f..ng shit and not worry about the law coming down on us , BECAUSE THIS IS THE CIVILIZED WORLD , not the bloody savages who stone their people to death . Noble you say , forced marriages , slit throats if disobedient , honour bloody killings , and you call them
"spiritually advanced " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can not believe that individuals can spend so much of their life in an enlightened nation , a tolerant and civilized country and yet they praise the very antithesis of freedom , human rights , freedom of speech , equality under the law .

[shahmaran]

Bloody hell miltiades, i think you are viewing everything from a very monochrome point of view, America electrocutes people to death, or gasses them or even injects them with poison, does that make it more humane?

Leave all that to a side, they bomb the shit out of defenceless families with babies, not to mention the use of an Atom bomb on one of the most amazing civilisations on earth, does it make it OK because their cause is more in line with your values?!

Are you willing to abandon your beliefs and morals in the expense of a few lives just so you can achieve utopia? Because THAT my friend, is probably the root of the most evil that is being done...

Like i said, i look at everything from an evolutionary point of view and to be honest they are doing a much better job at survival than the so called "civilised world" who's carbon emissions alone are going to bring dooms day for all of us eventually!

Remember what the people of the "civilised world" thought when they first encountered the tribal people? SAVAGES! Just like you, that's what they called them, only to destroy them shortly after, because they lived in very strange conditions and had very weird traditions such as cannibalism, and what do we think of these events today? We FUCKED up big time, that's what we think and we are only going to do it again!

[Get Real!]

They still stone people to death for fucks sake , what is NOBLE about a human being stone to death by barbarians chanting God is Great as the throw stones at a defenceless human. They are nothing short of savages , dont give shit what religion they have , and you call them "spiritually advanced " My arse , these ARE the brainless animals that you refer to not the civilized world that tolerated you and me and allowed us to express our views , to criticize this country without fear of persecution , to call the English Yobos f..ng shit and not worry about the law coming down on us , BECAUSE THIS IS THE CIVILIZED WORLD , not the bloody savages who stone their people to death . Noble you say , forced marriages , slit throats if disobedient , honour bloody killings , and you call them
"spiritually advanced " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can not believe that individuals can spend so much of their life in an enlightened nation , a tolerant and civilized country and yet they praise the very antithesis of freedom , human rights , freedom of speech , equality under the law .

I wish I could take you for a trip to Bagdad or Basra and then we'd fly off from there to Guantanamo where you can take a good look at the civilization you boast, so you can experience the human rights, freedom of speech, equality, and other values you mention.

Don't ever post your stone-throwing "argument" and similar theories on a “Middle East problem” forum because you'll have like 2,000 ME experts from around the world laugh at you all at once!

[miltiades]

""""Bloody hell miltiades, i think you are viewing everything from a very monochrome point of view, America electrocutes people to death, or gasses them or even injects them with poison, does that make it more humane? """
Compare to a bunch of prehistoric savages throwing stones at a half buried individual , unless the individual is a woman where she is buried up to her neck , I would say that electrocution of a criminal , NOT AN ADULTERER OR A WOMAN OF LOOSE MORALS , is far more civilized and humane than aiming stones at someones head , firstly son , the individual being stoned suffers for hours in sheer agony , there is no moral justification for such inhumane and barbaric event.Im surprised that you chose the UK , or your parents did , in which to get yourself a half decent education , why did they not choose Iran , Pakistan or any other non -Western nation. I know why , they could not stand the natives.
For your information when the West first encounter cannibalism , and tribalistic savagery they quite correctly called them savages , how would you describe a human that cooks and eats another human , Noble , cultured , civilized or a f..ng barbarian.