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by **lupusdiavoli** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:34 pm

Moments of history

written in blood

as usual

by **free_cyprus** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:40 pm

here we go we are of with the E.O.K.A and the TMT both traitors to cyprus people comiting crimes agains cyprus people in the name of turkey and greece

by **lupusdiavoli** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:51 pm

And I suppose you have the sole legitimate right to speak on behalf of the people of Cyprus.

How convenient!

crimes, traitors

"Heavy words" being used lightly

by **free_cyprus** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:12 pm

lupusdiavoli
i have thr right to give my opinion i have the right and the experiance to come to my own conlcusions based on present cyprus situation and past situation and having excess to media and diplomats regarding cyprus and their policy of devide and rule is that legitimate enough for you not to mention im a proud cypriot and i do not take sides like you do if you did not take sides as i do you will not have posted what you have

by **lupusdiavoli** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:44 pm

The statement was simple. History is written in blood.

It does not speak in the favour of any side.

Surely, you have every right to speak your mind. That means that you do represent yourself only. You are not allow to speak for the people of Cyprus as a whole, as their mouth. Your opinion is just a part of the catholic reality. Certainly there are some who amy agree with you, still you and them remain a part of the whole. Another part are those, regardless of which side are taking part, disagree with you. They are another part of the reality. So your initial judgment, rightfull may be for you, but yours it is. I do not doubt that your consider yourself a real Cypriot... But Cyprus reality consist of many parts.

So as you said you have the right to come to your own conclusions. That is the origin of subjectivism. The last... you are proud Cypriot, meaning what? Geographically speaking? It is a matter of definition and most probably you have in mind the content of the term as defined legally. So you are proud of what? Of your state? And what kind of people is this "Cypriot" people. What is their nature? What defines their existence?

Naturally whatever your answer may be it shall exress yourself, your own subjective conclusions. On the opposite my initial statement let me say carries no judgment, not any axiologic conclusions about anybody. Not even the Cypriot people, or the Greeks or the Turkish.

It smells reality. Whoever the blood is, history is made from blood. So simple. With no pride. But with clarity for those eyes ready to see and not interpretate with preconceptions.

As far as your cypriotism, it just shows the weakness of a fearful cypriotism. Whatever that is. What exists, the being of things has no need to declare its existence. Don' t u think?

by **free_cyprus** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:55 pm

lupusdiavoli
your talking alot of texbook gibberish mate ok i got bored reading all that crap , the reality of cyrus is we have been sold down the river by our own people and most of them are traitors to cyprus they are agents of so called mother lands soo lets cut to the chase and stap talking shit about difrent aspects of cyprus people i know all about that i also know we are slaves and still slaves to greece and turkey and there is no independence in cyprus now as there has never been in our history sooo save your selected poetic words for those who want to hear them im a realist not someone who lives in fantasy like most cypriots do thinking they are greeks and turks and that their roots go back to turkey and greece.....................

by **free_cyprus** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:57 pm

as voltaire said history is nothing but crimes and misfortunes unfortunatly cyprus has never known any fortune cyprus has always been raped and raped and raped again

by **michalis5354** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:03 pm

F C have you heard the leadership of the church - Chrysostomos-referring to everyone as the helenism of Cyprus? This man is sometimes sick he thinks he is the queen of Cyprus. I called once the church administartion and CyBC and complained ! What do u expect?

by **free_cyprus** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:12 pm

i wont be suprise with anythign that comes out of cyprus since they are mostly agents of motherlands riligious places schools and the soo called electeed goverments of cyprus that i dont recognise are all sell out ...................and they are a disgrace to cypriot people for they betray them all the time every day every week every year and people believe them lol thats where the tragedy lies

by **lupusdiavoli** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:32 pm

F-C,

If your are bored, let it be. I don' t know about poetic words. This is your impression right or wrong I don' t really care. I just wanted to check out your noetic -another poetic word- reflex. The conclusion I prefer to keep it for myself. Keep your opinion. I imagine it is well "grounded", in circumstances that did not introduce you in boredom. May be something less than lines of words. You see I wrote around 15. This I suppose gives the limit of you dialectic endurance.

The irony of the issue. You belive that you are not free.

Sorry that I have never feel the same.

I was born free, having no fears for my existence. It is simply in my blood mate carved without boredom through the time. It had no need to fabrigate an identity. Ceratinly this is solely my opinion. I do accept you as a part of the whole. You have absolute right of self-determination. It would be nice though to duly support your argument with something more.

Like Voltaire for example, his words put later put aside my initial ones are well combined. On what regards to Cyprus. I don' t know about rape... but yes where there is history there is blood. As a native you may feel raped.

But there different kinds of rape you know. The worst is a raped mind. The result is a raped twisted history.

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