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[karma]

moreover , the party system in turkey is a client-based system. people vote for them who promises to them access to public funds / contracts etc. dont epect too much ideology in their decision. besides , there is no real left in turkey for people to vote for.

The client-based system is also working in Greece the clients (voters) go to the politicians asking personal favors (mostly to get a job as a public servant)
I think this is common ottoman tradition (like baksheesh)

it is more rushvet than baksheesh...in Greece , it is colour-based system..''the blue kids'' and ''the green kids''

Not only the blue and the green kids but also the area that you are coming from or the family .This is the reason that many Athenians travel in the ancestry area to vote because there they have more close contact with the politicians, provincial caciques .
The problem for the parties are the people that don't have nothing to gain personally (like me ) and expecting some improvement to their life from general policies .These people are undetermined (about 600000 in Greece) and ... they are leaving one party for the other .

Esi o Christooos k Ego O Allaaaah
Omos kai oi dio maas , Ahhh kai Vaaahhhhhhh

[shahmaran]

just a swift scan through your bullshit post, ARSEHOLE, says nothing but the fact that you have never stepped foot in Turkey

I have never stepped foot in America either but its society has been well documented to the point where you can get a feel for its social makeup. Same goes with Turkey too.

its weird that you talk about racism while blaming Turkey for having a Nazi mentality, you are such an utter fucking moron its actually funny

Not only me that is likening Turkey to a Nazi state. The whole Turkey-trying-to-get-into-the-EU thing is making people look into Turkish society and its rise of 'ultra-nationalism and neo-ottoman ideals' (not my words but someone who wrote an article in The Guardian newspaper last week Monday) is beginning to stand out. Your previous post about people not liking Ataturks ideologies should leave Turkey is just a fine example. You can throw words about and call me a moron but im sure most sensible people with common sense, who read your facist post, would switch such a label onto you. Whats funny is that you, like a few other Turks in this forum, are so indenial about being brainwashed when the examples of Turkish brainwashing has been well documented by people such as Birkibrisli being an example.

Birkibrisli has done a great job in depicting the reality here but i can assure you that its not half as bad as he makes it out to be...

Yeah, if your a nationalist Turk - it must be great fun.

how the hell would you know about "Turkish brainwashing" if you have never even been here?

can you seriously not see how much shit you are talking?! do i reallly have to point it out, come on man wake up!!

its obvious who has been brainwashed, i live here at the moment (Istanbul), you are in the bloody UK, never been to Turkey, yet you claim to know everything about the Turks by reading an article in the Guardian?!?!?

you are just as bad as the "Cypriots" throwing claims all the way from Australia....

[miltiades]

SHA WROTE.
""""jesus fucking christ man, i dont know why i even bother with racist pricks like yourself, i thought it would help my boredom, but you are killing me here man, seriously! """

NOT SURPRISED YOU ARE BORED !

[shahmaran]

SHA WROTE.
""""jesus fucking christ man, i dont know why i even bother with racist pricks like yourself, i thought it would help my boredom, but you are killing me here man, seriously! """

NOT SURPRISED YOU ARE BORED !

what is that supposed to mean dear miltiades?

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey shah I wonder what would happen to you in case you say "Mohamet fucking Allah" in Turkey

NB. Don't say fucking for Christ man, I am not relegious but I believe this is unethical. Anyway I just wonder what the answer to the above question is.

[miltiades]

Shah , use your intelligence in a constructive fashion , any other way and you could be easily misconscrewed for a fellah !
I disagree with Pyr , if you want to say Mohamed fucking Mohamed man , you should be able to do so the same way you can say Jesus fucking Christ man. Although in some Muslim countries it will be the last thing you ever said , dont know about Turkey though. Isn't our Western world wonderful , so much freedom and tolerance it's no wonder thirldworlders are breaking their backs to get here , and once here want to change us to their way of life , the way they couldn't stand and deserted !!

[shahmaran]

miltiades you make a lot of sense but i still cant see what you mean!

anyhow, Pyr you are welcome to say it, the chances are nothing will happen unless some religious psychopathic freakozoid will over hear you and decide to take the law of Allah into his own hands, in which case you should make a run for it

however if you are referring to the law of Turkey then you should be OK, never seen anyone get charged for insulting Muhammad, but you will definitely not be a popular person that's for sure

but hey guess what will happen if you talk shit about other nations in the UK?

you will get done for racial abuse, that's what will happen!

but its OK over there, its just not OK when its done in Turkey against Turks right?

funny world we live in i tell you...

[Simon]

[quote]Bullshit!

Those are pretty much the only things you are not allowed to criticise, [/quote]

Shah, you make me laugh, so are so full of Turkish Nationalitic bullshit it is hilarious. First you say my post is 'bullshit' - then the next breathe you validate it as factually correct. The only two things you can't criticise? ONLY? You're pathetic.

[shahmaran]

Bullshit!

Those are pretty much the only things you are not allowed to criticise,

Shah, you make me laugh, so are so full of Turkish Nationalitic bullshit it is hilarious. First you say my post is 'bullshit' - then the next breathe you validate it as factually correct. The only two things you can't criticise? ONLY? You're pathetic.

Great than, that would definately save me from having to answer your crap in the future, you are just like that other moron who has never been to Turkey but knows it all, have a good night Simon

[Simon]

I don't need or want to go to Turkey thanks, I have heard enough about the shit-hole to know I never want to go there. Oh my God, I have just insulted Turkey, lucky I don't live there, or I'd be arrested