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[humanist]

New York - A Turkish Cypriot official on Friday asked United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to help end the isolation of the Turkish part of the divided island by resuming talks for a comprehensive settlement.
Turgay Avci, deputy prime minister of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, said in an interview with Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa that Ban should resume discussions on a plan proposed by his predecessor Kofi Annan to form a federal government on Cyprus.
The Republic of Cyprus, the Greek Cypriot part of the island, is a UN member. Cyprus was admitted into the European Union in 2004 as a divided island. The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus does not belong to world organizations and is recognized only by Ankara.
'We cannot accept piece-by-piece solution,' he said. 'Turkish Cypriots deserve to be treated on an equal basis like Greek Cypriots in a comprehensive settlement, in which there will be a bizonal and bi-communal arrangement.'
Avci, who was visiting New York to discuss the situation on Cyprus, called for 'political equality' between the two ethnic communities in a political solution.
The plan worked out by Annan was accepted by Turkish Cypriots in the north in a referendum in April 2004, but rejected by Greek Cypriots in the south.
The Greek Cypriots have demanded the withdrawal of more than 30,000 Turkish troops stationed in the northern part of the island since the 1960s. But the demanded was rejected by Ankara and Turkish Cypriots.
UN diplomatic efforts to end the division have stalled since after the 2004 referendum.
Avci said both sides agreed last year under UN mediation to form technical committees to deal with various issues, including health, security and environment. But he said the Greek Cypriot government has refused to enact the committees.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/euro ... s_solution

I doubt whether the Turkish Cypriot leadership know what they want and are also hipocrits of highest degree. Not taking responsibility and always blaming the RoC for their incompetence. The allegations above that the Greek Speaking Government has refused to enact committees, what about Talats stupid childish game of not doing his best for the openning of Ledra Street and not wanting to meet with Papadopoulos till further notice and till he speak with mama Turkey. Till further notice does that mean another 32 years Mr Talat. In the meantime can we find out what is happenning to the Turkish Speaking People in the north or have they all immigrated overseas as you are incompetent to get on with the job iof unifying Cyprus.

[Sotos]

They don't need to know what they want because they should just do what Turkey tells them.

[humanist]

thanx sotos, that clears a little bit for me

[Viewpoint]

New York - A Turkish Cypriot official on Friday asked United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to help end the isolation of the Turkish part of the divided island by resuming talks for a comprehensive settlement.
Turgay Avci, deputy prime minister of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, said in an interview with Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa that Ban should resume discussions on a plan proposed by his predecessor Kofi Annan to form a federal government on Cyprus.
The Republic of Cyprus, the Greek Cypriot part of the island, is a UN member. Cyprus was admitted into the European Union in 2004 as a divided island. The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus does not belong to world organizations and is recognized only by Ankara.
'We cannot accept piece-by-piece solution,' he said. 'Turkish Cypriots deserve to be treated on an equal basis like Greek Cypriots in a comprehensive settlement, in which there will be a bizonal and bi-communal arrangement.'
Avci, who was visiting New York to discuss the situation on Cyprus, called for 'political equality' between the two ethnic communities in a political solution.
The plan worked out by Annan was accepted by Turkish Cypriots in the north in a referendum in April 2004, but rejected by Greek Cypriots in the south.
The Greek Cypriots have demanded the withdrawal of more than 30,000 Turkish troops stationed in the northern part of the island since the 1960s. But the demanded was rejected by Ankara and Turkish Cypriots.
UN diplomatic efforts to end the division have stalled since after the 2004 referendum.
Avci said both sides agreed last year under UN mediation to form technical committees to deal with various issues, including health, security and environment. But he said the Greek Cypriot government has refused to enact the committees.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/euro ... s_solution

I doubt whether the Turkish Cypriot leadership know what they want and are also hipocrits of highest degree. Not taking responsibility and always blaming the RoC for their incompetence. The allegations above that the Greek Speaking Government has refused to enact committees, what about Talats stupid childish game of not doing his best for the openning of Ledra Street and not wanting to meet with Papadopoulos till further notice and till he speak with mama Turkey. Till further notice does that mean another 32 years Mr Talat. In the meantime can we find out what is happenning to the Turkish Speaking People in the north or have they all immigrated overseas as you are incompetent to get on with the job iof unifying Cyprus.

So it was Talat that did not want to talk for the last 3 years or reject a UN brokered plan accepted by the world as a comprehensive solution, you are being very one sided, although no angel Talat is way ahead of Tasos wo is the devil reincarnated to the majority of TCs ex eoka man and an outright Turk hater, he will never agree anything while in office and he is you representative destined to take you on a path to nowhere. Whether he vacates off in a year or 6 years time mark my words you will be no closer to a solution that you are today. If the GC people cannot see this then they are more blind than I ever imagined.

[free_cyprus]

first of all how can whole of cyprus know what they want when they cannot even except the fact that they are cypriots... they are ranting and raving about turks and greeks and yet when i mention this point people are all up in arms accusing me of all kind of things, in the daylight of day it is very simple really as soon as someone says im a turkish cypriot or a greek cypriot it devides out island it devides our culture it devides our minds. when we say we are turksih speaking or greek speaking cypriots we are the same people that unites us but people unfortunatly in this forum have their heads sooo far up their asss they dont know the differance and every post i see that says turkish or greek cypriot this devides our cyprus subconsciously this creates problems for us we are sypriots so we speak two languages speaking two languages is not the handicap here its what people attach to those two languages thats the handicap here

[humanist]

VP you are suggesting that the only people who want solution are the greek speakers of this land. If the turkish speakers do not want a solution and are happy to remain isolated in every way then let us know. Personally I question your motivations behind partition and you chop and change with what you want also. So in saving time let us know what benefits you are getting by division that you are so staunchly against unification and in your hours of benefits do you stop to think of your fellow citizens. Because last I checked they wanted a unified Cyprus.

You als have a way of ignoring questions so if you would be kind enough I would like to hear back a response. Also keep in mind most turkish speaking cypriots voted for a unification.

Further to your comet about Papadopoulos he was still the EOKA fighter you acuse him of being three years ago. So it really does not make sense why Talat would want to meet with him 3 years ago and not noew that the opportunity has been given. Perhaps Papadopoulos has been forced to meet with talat by the international community. Or are you saying that uyour people are better off by the long standing Cyprus issue and isolations?

[Eric dayi]

VP you are suggesting that the only people who want solution are the greek speakers of this land. If the turkish speakers do not want a solution and are happy to remain isolated in every way then let us know. Personally I question your motivations behind partition and you chop and change with what you want also. So in saving time let us know what benefits you are getting by division that you are so staunchly against unification and in your hours of benefits do you stop to think of your fellow citizens. Because last I checked they wanted a unified Cyprus.

You als have a way of ignoring questions so if you would be kind enough I would like to hear back a response. Also keep in mind most turkish speaking cypriots voted for a unification.

Have you been hibernation for the last 3 years and have no clue what is going on?

Let me bring you up to date.

In a new survey, very recently, it was found out that only around 20% of TC's wanted unification and would vote Yes again and their numbers are falling because for each day that passes they are finding out what the GC's really want and they don't like it one little bit.

I suggest you read the newspapers every now and then to keep yourself imformed about the present.

Further to your comet about Papadopoulos he was still the EOKA fighter you acuse him of being three years ago. So it really does not make sense why Talat would want to meet with him 3 years ago and not noew that the opportunity has been given. Perhaps Papadopoulos has been forced to meet with talat by the international community. Or are you saying that uyour people are better off by the long standing Cyprus issue and isolations?

Papadope has made his mind up that he does not want unification and I am surprised the Gc's have not realised this yet.

As far as EOKA terrorist Papadope is concerned it's all (ENOSIS) or partition, he will not allow power sharing while he is alive and wants to make sure it'll be impossible too after he kicks the bucket.

Isolation will not last forever either, Papadope is already working on it to get it lifted in order to make sure there will be no unification and power sharing.

Power to Papadope, he is my "bestest" friend and a God sent to all TC's.

[observer]

I doubt whether the Turkish Cypriot leadership know what they want and are also hipocrits of highest degree. Not taking responsibility and always blaming the RoC for their incompetence. The allegations above that the Greek Speaking Government has refused to enact committees, what about Talats stupid childish game of not doing his best for the openning of Ledra Street and not wanting to meet with Papadopoulos till further notice and till he speak with mama Turkey. Till further notice does that mean another 32 years Mr Talat. In the meantime can we find out what is happenning to the Turkish Speaking People in the north or have they all immigrated overseas as you are incompetent to get on with the job iof unifying Cyprus.

Humanist, take a walk up Ledra Street, until you can go no further on the GC side. If what you see in front of you is 'a vertical structure having little width in proportion to its length', it is called, in English, "a wall".

Elsewhere in this forum, a GC has told me that it's not a wall, it's a thin thing like dividing a building. In other words, 'a structure dividing space into two parts', which is called "a partition". It follows that the man who ordered it built, Papadopoulos, is "a partitionist".

If the soldiers guarding this wall/partition let you, look over and if on the TC side you see 'a breach in a hedge, fence or wall' it is called "a gap".

Repeat after me - Talat has made a GAP in the WALL. The PARTITIONIST Papadopoulos has built a new WALL or PARTITION.

[askimwos]

observer, do you actually believe what you are saying?

The last time I checked a third of Cyprus was under Turkish occupation. Cyprus was divided after the invation of Turkey and the Turkish army does nothing more than keeping the people and the island divide. Please save us from all those crap you are talking about the GC wanting partition. A look in the posts in this forum will tell you who is pro unification and who is pro partition.
Please think before you speak next time.

[shahmaran]

yeah they want "unification"

God knows what it actually involves, thats why the army is here and will stay here until we have a real solutio...