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[insan]

[brother]

understood first two maps but this last one above confused me a little, where you going with it, what you trying to say insan gardas

[cannedmoose]

Quite interesting how Cyprus isn't shaded red on that map... Perhaps the cartographer didn't want to claim British empire territory...

[insan]

Brother gardas,

This is the map of "megali idea"; the unsound doctrine of Hellenic fascism which was led by "fascist" Greek General Metaxas(He can be seen on yop left of the map). I quoted the definition fascist because Metaxas is considered both as a "hero" and a fascist dictator. For majority of Hellenic left wingers he is a fascist but for majority of Hellenic right wingers he is a hero becuse he said "oxi" to something(Some Hellenic members of this forum may enlighten us).

Hellenic Front i.e "white Greeks" still has been following the path which they dream will lead them to get all their ancient ancestral lands back i.e "revival of Byzantium Kingdom"


One of the famous member of Metaxas "family" is bloodthirsty Gebneral (so-Called) "Digenis" Grivas who butchered thousands of Greek and GC left wingers besides Brits and TCs from 40s until 74.


The Hellenic Front and their ulterior backers have always exerted a great effort in order to weaken Turkey and get their ancient, ancestral lands back. Although the official and known members of Hellenic Front constitute just a small portion of Hellene's nation; oddly enough all Greek governments have always tolerated their illegal actions and crimes committed against foreigners and minorities in Greece. I think the Hellenic members of this board are more knowledgable than me about this issue and would complete or correct if I essentially(or intentionally?) have left something unsaid.

[brother]

sagol gardas, that now makes sense to me.

[boulio]

insan, before you start rattleying about the megali idea and greek expansionism,the map is the not the megali idea but the actual treaty of serves,notice rhodes is not red either since it was not allocated to italy.so if your going to write propaganda please make sure you have some cliams at least right.

[metecyp]

insan, before you start rattleying about the megali idea and greek expansionism,the map is the not the megali idea but the actual treaty of serves,notice rhodes is not red either since it was not allocated to italy.so if your going to write propaganda please make sure you have some cliams at least right.

Oh, so Treaty of Serves has nothing to do with Megali Idea? Megali Idea did not inspire parts of the Treaty of Sevres? And how do you claim that insan is writing propaganda? Didn't Greece try to implement the Megali Idea? Didn't Greeks invade western Anatolia? Aren't these facts?

[boulio]

relax dude this is what venizelos wanted aND THIS IS WHAT HE GOT from the treaty of servesthe blue represens the memorandum of 1918 and the brown shade represent the treaty of serves.we hardly got what we asked for.venizelos was asking for land in asia minor that coresponded to the greek population of asia minor during the ottoman empire.which rougly was 18-20%,notice he does not ask for constantinopol which for the megali idea it is the corner stone of the megali idea.greece invaded asia minor not to fullfill the megali idea but to implement the sevres treaty.

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[metecyp]

greece invaded asia minor not to fullfill the megali idea but to implement the sevres treaty.

You're making me laugh. Does it matter why Greece invaded the Asia Minor? The fact is Greece did invade the Asia Minor because it wanted to get its share from the remnants of the Ottomon empire and expand its territories. Who cares if this expansion was part of the Megali Idea or part of the implementation of the Serves Treaty? You seriously have issues in admitting when Greece does/did something wrong.

[boulio]

actually it does matter because for one,it wanted to get what was signed over to them at the time by the legal govt.of turkey which was the sultan,and besides you were the one who was questioning the invasion of western asia minor were you not.where greece was wrong was trying to expand into asia minor,if she stayed put in eastern thrace and the smyrna zone they would be speaking greek there today.so much for listening to the britsh.thats were greece was at fault.