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[zan]

Is this Forum proof that we cannot get along and we should all push for partition. Even if it were true that the old TCs and GCs got on it is plain to see from what is going on with the younger generation that there is more hate now than there has ever been. The GCs seem to hate the TCs more than ever and will not give them an inch which in turn is making the TCs hate them right back and so on. What is the point of carrying on this facade.

[iceman]

Lets just say the only thing we agree on is to disagree with eachother

[Get Real!]

Is this Forum proof that we cannot get along and we should all push for partition. Even if it were true that the old TCs and GCs got on it is plain to see from what is going on with the younger generation that there is more hate now than there has ever been. The GCs seem to hate the TCs more than ever and will not give them an inch which in turn is making the TCs hate them right back and so on. What is the point of carrying on this facade.

At last we agree! Ok, here's my suggestion to accomodate us both:

[Piratis]

It is a proof that the only thing some people care about (the majority of TCs) is how to excuse their crimes and illegalities and promote partition. The only reason you are here is to promote partition. You never talk about anything else except from lame excuses about the occupation. You want to promote hate between the two communities because this is what you believe serves your partition aim best.

So the conclusion is not that we should "all push for partition" (keep dreaming), but that with people like you a peaceful solution not possible, and it can only be achieved by keep fighting for our rights and harming our enemies (those that insist on illegalities against us) as much as possible.

So you push for partition, as you have always done, and we will push for the liberation of our country, and lets stop discussing as it is obvious you do not have any intention of stopping with the illegalities and crimes against us. You will only stop when you will be forced to stop. Democracy means nothing to you, human rights mean nothing to you, international law means nothing to you, so yes, those that think they can change the mind of people like you are wasting their time. They only thing you will do is to play your distorted record "63-74" trying to excuse in that way any and all your crimes and illegalities.

[Piratis]

Is this Forum proof that we cannot get along and we should all push for partition. Even if it were true that the old TCs and GCs got on it is plain to see from what is going on with the younger generation that there is more hate now than there has ever been. The GCs seem to hate the TCs more than ever and will not give them an inch which in turn is making the TCs hate them right back and so on. What is the point of carrying on this facade.

At last we agree! Ok, here's my suggestion to accomodate us both:

Exactly Get Real! Those partitionists are trying to prove that TCs and GCs can not live together and for them that means that they should be separate by ethnically cleansing GCs, and TCs gaining that land on GCs lose.

How about if we reverse it, and say "if GCs and TCs can not live together then TCs should be ethnically cleansed"? I don't think they would like it in that way, but I am afraid if they continue with oppressing us thats what they are going to get in the end, like the Turks of Crete.

The only solution that that can serve the rights of everybody is one united Cyprus were everybody is an equal citizen without racist discriminations. If one can make an argument that the "solution" could be the ethnic cleansing and the human rights violations of the "other side" then in the end he might get that for his own side.

[iceman]

The only solution that that can serve the rights of everybody is one united Cyprus were everybody is an equal citizen without racist discriminations.

Its a pity your side did not share your thoughts back in the early sixties..

[Piratis]

The only solution that that can serve the rights of everybody is one united Cyprus were everybody is an equal citizen without racist discriminations.

Its a pity your side did not share your thoughts back in the early sixties..

Its a pity that you have some lame excuse to deny those principles even in the 21st century.

Secondly, my "side" is not that tiny minority of extremists that caused problems. Our official policy since the 60s has always been for democratic reforms, however I admit the management for this was not good enough. But you couldn't expect perfection from a nation that has been ruled by oppressive rulers for centuries and didn't have the experience needed.

[askimwos]

Sorry to say it zan but I do not consider you and vp the majority in the TC side. Your views are so nationalistic that even some military people in Turkey appear peace makers in front of you.

Don't jump on your seat mate, I consider you no different than the bunch of thugs that created all this mess in the past, be it EOKA b or TMT. I said it before, you are my enemy in the exact same way as the grey and blue wolves are. You are the people that need to be isolated by the rest of the healthy society in order for a solution to be found.

[humanist]

Zan, I guess some of us on this forum do not agree, actually you and VP and the rest of the forum. Kikapu and Birkibrisli, turkish Cyp and Gav recognise that Turkish Speaking Cypriots are co-owners of Cyprus and would like to see unification, so partition is out unification is ..... but lets not forget we do not represent merely .01% of our respective populations. Have a good weekend matey

[Piratis]

Sorry to say it zab but I do not onsider you and vp the majority in the TC side.

They might be some of the most of extreme cases but in general my impression is that Zan and VP are much closer to the average TC than Kikapu or Bir.

I would say that most TCs are educated to believe that GCs are evil and that they can not live together with GCs in a truly united country. Most of those that accept unity, just accept it as a word. For most of them "unification" doesn't actually mean GCs and TCs living together as equal citizens in one country, it means the "trnc" and RoC associated in more or less the way that Spain and Estonia are within EU. So when you hear a TC say "I want unification" you should better ask him what exactly he means, otherwise you might get the wrong impression.