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Postby karma » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:57 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Any guesses of what might have happened?

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was she also raped??
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:17 am

You think Eric raped her karma mou?

I wouldn't be surprised.

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After all Hitler used to rape cats. :shock:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:42 am

humanist wrote:VP when you do the right thing by the greek speaking side you will be treated like equals, whilst you occupy peoples homeland and do not allow them equal access then the result will be tyhe same as has been for the last 32 years. The level playing field works both ways and thats what we need to decide whetehre we are happy with things as they ware or we want change.

The AP was worse than what we have now. Foreign countries telling cypriots how to live. Annan got fed up with the Cyprus thing so he threw something together hoping he would have fooled people into voting ad stuffing em up. then shut them to silence.


Human obviously you have not taken notice of what I have posted regarding a level playing field on both sides which includes return of property rights.

You rejected the AP which was not just thrown together experts worked on it and it went through stages 1 to 5 at a great cost to the UN. You have what you wanted the current situation, status quo.
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Postby humanist » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:22 am

sorry VP i'll go back and re-read the post.

as far as the AP is concerned lets agree to disagree on that one... I cannot see any experts coming up for a plan where foreign countries dictate an independent state how to operate. Anyhow, I am happy to accept yur argument on that one and have my own oppinion also.

thanks tho.

VP I also want to say that property for me is not such a big thing, it is around the freedoms and choices of individuals, I am also old enough to understand the Israel/ Palestine situation to know that so far as people feel ill and hard done by there will be revolts and hence I am advocating for something more unified so that we can put a stop to bloodshed and hard ache for all Cypriots, so that we do not become a second israel/ palestine.
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Postby humanist » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:31 am

VP said
I'm sorry about the death of your relative innocent people from both sides suffered due to the hidden agendas...I have learned from the past not to take for granted that people will always want to get the upper hand over my community reducing them to just another minority and the equal partner status they deserve. All I am asking for is safeguards to ensure that our future is not put in the hands of GCs alone and that we as TC have say in our destiny, how will you guarantee this?


VP I am sorry I cannot find your psot re- property issue. So I cannot coment further on this matter.


Mate in relation to you being dictated too by GC's .... all I can say is that in few years we will all be dictated too by the EU so you have nothing to fear. We're all going to be in the whimps of the more powerful forces and those with more greed thatn those in power now.

VP I just wanted to take up another point of discussion, in previous posts I have actually suggested that the two state of a united cyprus remain in the current land mass they currently hold. With buffer zone becoming a national park for all cypriots to enjoy. I beleiev if we are going to have a united country with federal governement and two states, something like Australia why not have two equal states, share the resources equally and people having a choice of where they want to live. Coming back to the land/ property issue I have also suggested that the RoC and the trnc create a register of those people who do not wish to return to either side so that we have a clearer picture of the balance in population. I do believe that due to the time gap many greek speaking cypriots will not return to their properties, many have immigrated overseas and to this end will not return, many living in cyprus have established lives in the south and have built bigger and better homes that they will not give up so perhaps that would be a fairer way of land distribution, I have also suggetsed that Church land be made available to house turkish speaking cyp's who may not want to return to south (such as the Tochni women and their children - on this I wish to extend my regrets about the village situation and apologise as an individual for what some of my compatriots had done) but are currently occupying greek refugee property.

Since being on the forum I have gained an insight on the issues faced ny settlers and tho this end I have previously sugested that as greek refugees vacate their current refugee accommodation settlers move in till their fate is decided. To this end I have suggested that the turkish speaking cypriots be given a choice via referendum to decide what percentage if any of the settlers stay, then an independent committee be set up to look at those setllers and their families independently of the group and individully. Then Turkey needs to take responsibility for ther re-settlemebt in Turkey or perhaps around EU.

Also about the level playing field ...... all troops out of cyprus, dismantling of national guard. UN presence increase with a time line of two years in which the UN to come up with a better pla than the AP was. Now we know the sticking points so we can find workable solutions to those.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:15 am

humanist
Mate in relation to you being dictated too by GC's .... all I can say is that in few years we will all be dictated too by the EU so you have nothing to fear. We're all going to be in the whimps of the more powerful forces and those with more greed thatn those in power now.


So according to you we have nothing to worry about, so we dont need political equality or fear being reduced to just another minority in our own country. Well forgive me I disagree and need safeguards to ensure my community is not dominated by GCs.


With regards to the rest of your post its the GCs you have to persuade more than TCs on many issues that you raise.
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Postby humanist » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:13 am

VP said
So according to you we have nothing to worry about, so we dont need political equality or fear being reduced to just another minority in our own country. Well forgive me I disagree and need safeguards to ensure my community is not dominated by GCs.


With regards to the rest of your post its the GCs you have to persuade more than TCs on many issues that you raise.



VP, I never said that the RoC is doing everything possible and ata fast rate to solve the Cyprus problem

In relation to your first coment, you can disagree, however the reality is that in Cyprus there are more greek speakers than turkish speakers, so we can all accept that and find ways to ensure that turkish speaking cypriots are safeguarded and equally represented in a political domain, because unless you call mother turkey to come in and trash 750 000 greek speaking cypriots from the face of the earth then you will never get equal representation in a population where you are a minority of 18%.

So we can choose to move beyond this or we keep things as they are. You guys in the north unrecognised and isolated and us in the south mourning for our lost country. no further discussion. please keep in mind we are human beings too just like you are VP.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:59 am

karma wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Any guesses of what might have happened?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


was she also raped??


What??? :shock: :shock: :shock: Eric Dayi raped a Vampire!!!

And the Vampire died of shame and humiliation???

Shame on you Eric Dayi!...Keep your TTTMMMTTT++++ blood type away from Vampires...We don't want them to turn racist and ultranationalistic... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:26 am

regarding safegours and human rights in cyprus the only way we will achieve all that is by getting rid of the notion we are greeks and turks on the island................... feck theres three people living on th island of cyprus and they cannot make up their minds ..................if they are turks greeks.....or cypriots.............or if they are turkish speaking and greek speaking cypriots..............what we do have on the island is this great lot of bollox about majorety and minority and what does all this mean .......................it means infiriority complex andsupiriority complex..........so what do we have befere weeven started to sort out the problem of cyprus we have a lot of people talking shit in here not realising what they are talking about ................ and most of the post i read in ehre deal with devide and rule by those who post them
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Postby miltiades » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:34 am

The bloody parrot at it again .
""""we have a lot of people talking shit in here not realising what they are talking about """

Read any of your posts Papagalos ?
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