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[zan]

Saying that GC still want Enosis is also quite funny may I add. So many TC people have been brainwashed into thinking this - why cant they think for themselves?

One example I can recollect is that when Greece drew 0-0 with Turkey in a PREVIOUS championship qualifier - a bunch of moronic TC kids decided to get their flags out again to celebrate the fantastic result against the European champions (or to be more specific, they were burning to celebrate on the streets of Palmers Green and Southgate because when Greece won the Euro and had a street carnival accross most of north London - it really burned them inside). So where did some of these TC kids go to wave their flags after a football match with Greece??... outside The Salamina FC UK branch supporters club. This club is probably the most left wing / anti Greece / pro Cypriot bunch of supporters you can find (trust me - i know lol). All these morons new is that it was a Greek Cypriot (or should i say Cypriot when we are talkin about Salamina) club house and recognised the name Salamina - so like good nationalist Turkish boys - they went there with their flags to wave and taunt the pro-Cypriot anti-EOKA people who had lost their houses in the Turkish invasion - with Turkish and 'TRNC' flags.

You say you do not want ENOSIS but you refuse vehemently our request to put safeguards to prevent it. Why is that. You guys remind me of the "child catcher in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". You place sweets in a cage and wait for us to enter. NO thanks, I have not got a sweet tooth.

[Kikapu]

What did you think this renewed attack on me and VP was going to achieve. Did you really think that we were going to run away and hide. I don't think so. Apart from Bir and Kiks every other TC is willing to stand up for their rights. Those two gave up on their people a long time ago and I do not know a single other TC that talks the way they do.

Will you listen to yourself Zan. If Bir and I have given up on our people, what do you say to the other 30%-35% in the "TRNC", who may in fact be close to 90% of all the True Turkish Cypriots, if you discount the settlers, that does not want a partition, but a workable solution. How does Bir and I, differ from those positions.?

How does a "United States of Cyprus" in anyway, is giving up on my people.??

By the way, could you tells us the "magic words" that you used on VP in London, to persuade him to stay on the Forum, after he was done with his VACATION there, so that I can use it on my girlfriend, if she ever decides to leave me one of these days.

If it worked on VP, I'm sure it will work on my girlfriend too.

[zan]

What did you think this renewed attack on me and VP was going to achieve. Did you really think that we were going to run away and hide. I don't think so. Apart from Bir and Kiks every other TC is willing to stand up for their rights. Those two gave up on their people a long time ago and I do not know a single other TC that talks the way they do.

Will you listen to yourself Zan. If Bir and I have given up on our people, what do you say to the other 30%-35% in the "TRNC", who may in fact be close to 90% of all the True Turkish Cypriots, if you discount the settlers, that does not want a partition, but a workable solution. How does Bir and I, differ from those positions.?

How does a "United States of Cyprus" in anyway, is giving up on my people.??

By the way, could you tells us the "magic words" that you used on VP in London, to persuade him to stay on the Forum, after he was done with his VACATION there, so that I can use it on my girlfriend, if she ever decides to leave me one of these days.

If it worked on VP, I'm sure it will work on my girlfriend too.

I am not in touch with the settlers Kiks. All my contacts speak to the TCs and the mood is changing quickly. VP is on the ground and you don’t even take his word for it. What was happening before was that people were afraid of Turkey in two ways. One was the army having a great influence on their DAILY lives and the other was that she would walk out on us. Both have changed dramatically and they have moved away from threatening the people because it was having a negative affect and because assurances have been put in place that they will not abandon us the acceptance of their limited presence is now reassuring rather than threatening. Yes we are becoming Turkified and it is being welcomed because we are not really losing much as we have found out that there is not much difference any way. Culture is dynamic and we are seeing that our Cyprotness is also rubbing off on them. They all eat Helim now.

[Kikapu]

What did you think this renewed attack on me and VP was going to achieve. Did you really think that we were going to run away and hide. I don't think so. Apart from Bir and Kiks every other TC is willing to stand up for their rights. Those two gave up on their people a long time ago and I do not know a single other TC that talks the way they do.

Will you listen to yourself Zan. If Bir and I have given up on our people, what do you say to the other 30%-35% in the "TRNC", who may in fact be close to 90% of all the True Turkish Cypriots, if you discount the settlers, that does not want a partition, but a workable solution. How does Bir and I, differ from those positions.?

How does a "United States of Cyprus" in anyway, is giving up on my people.??

By the way, could you tells us the "magic words" that you used on VP in London, to persuade him to stay on the Forum, after he was done with his VACATION there, so that I can use it on my girlfriend, if she ever decides to leave me one of these days.

If it worked on VP, I'm sure it will work on my girlfriend too.

I am not in touch with the settlers Kiks. All my contacts speak to the TCs and the mood is changing quickly. VP is on the ground and you don’t even take his word for it. What was happening before was that people were afraid of Turkey in two ways. One was the army having a great influence on their DAILY lives and the other was that she would walk out on us. Both have changed dramatically and they have moved away from threatening the people because it was having a negative affect and because assurances have been put in place that they will not abandon us the acceptance of their limited presence is now reassuring rather than threatening. Yes we are becoming Turkified and it is being welcomed because we are not really losing much as we have found out that there is not much difference any way. Culture is dynamic and we are seeing that our Cyprotness is also rubbing off on them. They all eat Helim now.

Thanks for the NON ANSWERS to all of my questions Zan, specially on how to win my girlfriend back, if she decides to leave me, or was "Helim" the "magic word".

[GreekForumer]

You want all of Cyprus we want a part in which we can exist without your greed taking over.

Zan, have you got any sympathetic words for those 60% non Turks (Greeks and Armenians and others) of the Republic of Hatay who did not want to be annexed to Turkey in 1939 ?

Would you describe the Turks of Hatay as more "greedy" than the GCs?

Did the Turks of Hatay give a part of Hatay to the non Turks ?

[zan]

What did you think this renewed attack on me and VP was going to achieve. Did you really think that we were going to run away and hide. I don't think so. Apart from Bir and Kiks every other TC is willing to stand up for their rights. Those two gave up on their people a long time ago and I do not know a single other TC that talks the way they do.

Will you listen to yourself Zan. If Bir and I have given up on our people, what do you say to the other 30%-35% in the "TRNC", who may in fact be close to 90% of all the True Turkish Cypriots, if you discount the settlers, that does not want a partition, but a workable solution. How does Bir and I, differ from those positions.?

How does a "United States of Cyprus" in anyway, is giving up on my people.??

By the way, could you tells us the "magic words" that you used on VP in London, to persuade him to stay on the Forum, after he was done with his VACATION there, so that I can use it on my girlfriend, if she ever decides to leave me one of these days.

If it worked on VP, I'm sure it will work on my girlfriend too.

I am not in touch with the settlers Kiks. All my contacts speak to the TCs and the mood is changing quickly. VP is on the ground and you don’t even take his word for it. What was happening before was that people were afraid of Turkey in two ways. One was the army having a great influence on their DAILY lives and the other was that she would walk out on us. Both have changed dramatically and they have moved away from threatening the people because it was having a negative affect and because assurances have been put in place that they will not abandon us the acceptance of their limited presence is now reassuring rather than threatening. Yes we are becoming Turkified and it is being welcomed because we are not really losing much as we have found out that there is not much difference any way. Culture is dynamic and we are seeing that our Cyprotness is also rubbing off on them. They all eat Helim now.

Thanks for the NON ANSWERS to all of my questions Zan, specially on how to win my girlfriend back, if she decides to leave me, or was "Helim" the "magic word".

I don't have any more answers for you Kikapu You have had all those questions answered a thousand times and you ask them again hoping to get the answer YOU want to hear. It don't work that way. As for your girlfriend....If she is a GC then you are saying all the right things so don't worry about that. If she is a TC then "GOODBYE" will do.



I am off to Wales for my sons rugby tournament soon. He is really a good player. Shame he will never be able to play or support "Cyprus/RoC". How do the words to the GREEK national anthem go again.................................................................................See you on monday.

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

You say you do not want ENOSIS but you refuse vehemently our request to put safeguards to prevent it. Why is that. You guys remind me of the "child catcher in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". You place sweets in a cage and wait for us to enter. NO thanks, I have not got a sweet tooth.

What is your request to safeguard against Enosis with Greece? Turkish military forever present on the island? or an exclusive Turkish colony on Cyprus? Not good enough Zan! Turkey is a foreign country that has no rights to Cyprus - get that through you nationalist skull.

Any sane person that follows politics or has open ears can see that Greek Cypriots no longer want Enosis with Greece and that was only wanted whilst Cyprus was under foreign colonial oppression. Your excuse for Greek Cypriot desire for Enosis / union with Greece is just a joke Zan and makes you look even more and more desperate the more you go on about it.

You have no care for Cyprus, in your head the Cyprus problem is just about not letting the Greeks get one over on the Turks. Thats how your head works isnt it Zan - you dont care about REAL human rights and the right thing - you just care about your neo-Ottoman nationalistic cause.

You sound quite desparate, ill-informed and basically pathetic many times over when you talk about the Cyprus problem.

[BirKibrisli]

zan wrote:



What did you think this renewed attack on me and VP was going to achieve. Did you really think that we were going to run away and hide. I don't think so. Apart from Bir and Kiks every other TC is willing to stand up for their rights. Those two gave up on their people a long time ago and I do not know a single other TC that talks the way they do.

Will you listen to yourself Zan. If Bir and I have given up on our people, what do you say to the other 30%-35% in the "TRNC", who may in fact be close to 90% of all the True Turkish Cypriots, if you discount the settlers, that does not want a partition, but a workable solution. How does Bir and I, differ from those positions.?

How does a "United States of Cyprus" in anyway, is giving up on my people.??

I have given up on Zan some time ago,Kikapu.
He seems to have swallowed the VP propaganda shit hook,line and sinker...Lets have a look at the "rights" Zan wants to fight for:

The right to be treated as inferior Turks,and told at every opportunity to prove their "Turkishness"...

The right to be treated as "British bastards" or "gavour bastards" and told to get a grip on their true Turkish values...

The right to be called "godless infidels" and told to go and learn about real Islam...

The right to be saddled with puppet governments who cannot wipe their arses without permission from Ankara...

The right to live in a pretend state up to their necks in gambling,drugs,money laundering,prostitution...

The right to be kidnappped and robbed at gunpoint by the Turkish mafia...

The right to live with frequent electricity cuts and water rationing like a third world country...

The right to be reminded every day that they have been saved from the terrible GCs,who would eat them alive without the Turkish army....

I could go on but that would do for now...

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

You guys remind me of the "child catcher in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". You place sweets in a cage and wait for us to enter. NO thanks, I have not got a sweet tooth.

Your a fuckin weirdo and all!

[Pyrpolizer]

Instead of all you guys talking about foreign movies go have a look at the theater I watched last night called "barish". When a 'nationalistic pig" like me acknowledges that the TCs have done a superb performance, what else do you Zan and VP want to understand we are not going to burry you alive in a United Cyprus, but would love to share your successess the same way you would share ours.

OK I admit I did not understand a word as everything was in Turkish, but I missed nothing regarding the performance, the passion with which the actors performed.
But OK I read the story in Greek so I could follow the play.