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by **Simon** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:08 pm

For God's sake. Listen to yourself.

[quote]Also one man's "parading" is another's "proving they are unharmed". Of-course if they hadn't "paraded" them it would be "show us they're OK". Still, sells plenty of newspapers doesn't it. Rupert Murdoch's loving it[/quote]

The British have requested Consular access to these people right from the beginning, so they can see that they are safe. The Iranians have denied this even most basic of rights. Instead, they have done SPECIFICALLY what they were asked not to do, which was PARADE them on television, making politically charged comments and confessions, UNDER CLEAR DURESS. So please don't tell me this was done to show they are safe, they could have easily done this by not putting them on TV. The most laughable thing is, the sailors will not have a clue where they were, so their confessions are ridiculous. Only HMS Cornwall would have known, as they have the GPS Navigation System. That clearly shows the British were in Iraqi waters.

You may be patriotic. If you are, (and being patriotic doesn't just mean supporting our sporting teams) then you should recognise when you need to support your country on political issues. Britain in this instance is clearly legally and morally correct. And you defend Iran? You may call yourself patriotic, I have my own opinions. Like I have said, you may disagree with Iraq, which is fine, but that doesn't mean everything Britain does is wrong. I used the word 'clone' because that is what you sound like. I notice that you didn't come back disputung any of the facts of my previous post.

by **Baggieboy** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:17 pm

"you should recognise when you need to support your country on political issues" -yep - Hitler said something similar.

You want evidence? "Unfortunately, during the course of our mission we entered into Iranian waters". But that was under duress, right? Simon - take a chill pill - I'm off to watch the cricket (but I'm sectertly supporting Ireland, right?). End o story from me - but feel free to blather on.

by **Simon** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:32 pm

Yes, now you are just showing your stupidity. So I'm as bad as Hitler for recognising that Iran illegally captured British troops. :roll:

It makes me laugh whenever somebody says something like that. Hitler used the words 'you' 'the' 'we' etc (in German of course) that you used in your last post. That must also mean you have Nazi tendences. :roll:

Every person who shows loyalty to their country are Hitler. :roll:

You know this kind of left-wing opinion permeates British society, and that is why they have polarised communities, British suicide bombers and the like. Because there is no pride in the country, no identity, no loyalty, fuelled by left-wing opinions such as these.

Your second paragraph was already dealt with by my post previously. You take as evidence what a hostage says do you? Of course their under duress, they are being held against their will. I'm not surprised you have these views, how old are you and what is your IQ by the way? The hostages would not have known where they were, I have said this previously. So their confessions are ridiculous and shows Iran's stupidity.

End of story for you because you have absolutely nothing constructive to say to my posts. Feel free to indulge in your un-patriotic, self-loathing, left-wing views.

by **dancingbear** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:23 pm

Baggieboy,
You say prisoners, dont get that one. Didnt think for a minute we were ar war with Iran.

Simon i totally agree with everything you have said, aslo i would close down completly the BBC.

Bear

by **Baggieboy** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:28 pm

Yes - can see what you're saying Bear. Fair point. But the sensitive nature of of the sitution is a bit different to, lets say, exercises on the coast of France. But yes - point taken. One more word from me though -antagonism.
regards,

Richie

by **dancingbear** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:34 pm

Richie,

The Royal Navy have been carrying out these missions over the past 4 years so why now? the Irainians are out to start something to which they cannot rightly justify and whip up support in their own country in case they are attacked.

Bear

by **Baggieboy** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:40 pm

But "close down the BBC"? that attitude actually scares me. PLus - imagine this situation: Just stay with me on this:

Ireland has been invaded by Iran -I know - bear with me - then, just off the coast of Liverpool we spy Iranian boats. What would we do?

But I accept that everyone's got different views on this - and I understand that people don't agree with me. Hope we can stay friendly anyway

Richie (IQ 156!)

by **Baggieboy** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:42 pm

Goo answer Bear. As you say - I honestly think Iran are scared about being invadeded right now. probably justifiably so

by **Baggieboy** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:42 pm

sorry - meant good - not goo!

by **the_snake_and_the_crane** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:43 pm

I dont trust GB here. It seems many in this country havent learnt from the lessons of the so called Iraqi 'WoMD'. All of a sudden people in this country seen to think Iran is in the wrong here. We dont know WHATS going on but what i DO KNOW is that American and GB have been waiting a few years for an excuse to invade Iran and overthrow their government.

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