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Fanos Droushiotis in TDN!

Postby Kifeas » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:36 pm

Admin note: I was today contacted by Alkan Chaglar who informed me that the article bellow is his own article that was stolen and reused under a different title by Fanos Droushiotis who sold it on to Turkish Daily News.

The original article is here http://www.toplumpostasi.net/index.php/ ... /Ana_sayfa


The isolation of Northern Cyprus should come to an end
Tuesday,


March 27, 2007


Cyprus is not a mere Greco-Turkish affair and cannot afford to view human rights in an ethnocentric way. Similarly, ‘I want my human rights but to hell with the human rights of others,’ is not the mindset we need

Fanos Droushiotis

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http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=69225


Fanouraki, you have lost the plot and have become the mouthpiece of the Turkish propaganda!

Fanaouraki, learn the facts! In case you have forgotten it, it is TURKEY and it’s OCCUPATION TROOPS that violate the Turkish Cypriot’s human rights, in the same way that they do violate those of the Greek Cypriots! In case you have forgotten it, the RoC de jure sovereignty extents all over the territory of Cyprus. This is not what I or the GCs say, but this is what international law says! It is not the RoC that violates TC’s human rights, because it is the 40,000 TURKISH OCCUPATION TROOPS that de facto prohibit and deny to the RoC the right to exercise its de jure authority in the occupied north and to open its ports there for the people of the country to export their goods; in the same way that the same 40,000 TURKISH army prohibits the GCs to have access and control to their homes, properties and churches. If the TURKISH army did not prohibit the RoC from exercising its obligations towards its citizens that live in the north, the RoC would have operated all the ports and airports there without any problem. Nevertheless, the RoC gives its TC citizens alterative ways to fly in and out of Cyprus and /or do their import and export trading, through the non-occupied ports and airports in the free part of Cyprus, and it also provides them with all the traveling documents such as passports, e.t.c. Furthermore, no one else other than the TURKISH OCCUPATION TROOPS does prohibit the TC universities to register themselves under the RoC accreditation system, and thus become recognized internationally as legal educational establishments, with all the benefits that this entails! It is the TRKISH TROOPS and their puppets in the north that cause the isolation to the TC community, AND NOT the RoC!

I can understand your wish to see the “TRNC” become recognized through the back door, but it won’t happen in your life time!
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Postby Sotos » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:45 pm

Somebody said that they write the articles for him and put his name under. I think it is true because if you see from his posts here that are not cut and paste he can hardly spell his name. :lol:
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Postby fanourıo » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:19 pm

1. If Turkey is breaking International Law as you claim Kifeas, then why nobody enforces this International Law for the past 33 years? Even if you are right, is the International Community or the UN or even the US so weak to put up with Turkey? Or do you think the EU will stop Turkey from becoming a member because of Cyprus? If the Europeans care so much about Cyprus, why did they not just reject any negotiations with Turkey? Even Papadopoullos said he agrees with Turkey's efforts to join the EU. Why doesn't anybody tell Turkey to withdraw its forces?
2. Sotos my friend I dont particularly have to answer your personal comment. It seems you dont manage to accept any other opinion unless it is similar to yours...typical. If I can not even spell my name I will let others judge. To tell you the truth I will not spend a Turkish Lira for your judgement because simply what you and your fellow GC do is just criticise and even that you do not do in a gentleman's manner. As if I care....
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Postby Sotos » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:29 pm

Wow! Not one "call me.." not one "email me..." no swearing! I am amazed! Did they employee an editor for your posts now Fanourio? They give to you the 1 cent and to him the real salary? :lol: So how much they pay you at Bayrak for writing propaganda? You didn't tell me yet. ;)
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Postby askimwos » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:58 pm

Can I ask Sotos to avoid the bitter comments?
I can see that you do not agree with Fanos and I do not agree either but lets keep a decent level of discussion.

As I said in another thread Fanos article, if we exclude the issue of recognition of the "trnc" has some well analyzed points with regards to the issues of direct flights and it tells some truths as to why GC will not accept direct trade in the way the TCs mean it. It raises the issue that one cannot claim human rights violations with regards to isolation and at the same time deprive the human rights of the people that were thrown out of their houses.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:28 pm

fanourıo wrote:1. If Turkey is breaking International Law

Doesn't she? What do you think yourself?

fanourıo wrote:why nobody enforces this International Law for the past 33 years?

You do not know why?


fanourıo wrote: is the International Community or the UN or even the US so weak to put up with Turkey?



British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said on Tuesday that ``legally there are great difficulties`` in commencing direct flights to the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus.

Speaking in Ankara during a joint press conference with Turkish Minister of Foreign Affairs Abdullah Gul, Beckett said Britain never said there would be direct flights to the occupied areas but would request legal advice on the issue.

Beckett added that the advice she received was that ``legally there are great difficulties`` in this issue

http://www.cna.org.cy/website/english/a ... 2.asp?id=2


Fanouraki, for which "legally great difficulties" did she speak about?



fanourıo wrote:Or do you think the EU will stop Turkey from becoming a member because of Cyprus?

Fanouraki, no, I do not think the EU will stop Turkey from becoming a member, simply because the Parliament of the RoC will stop Turkey from becoming a member, as long as Turkey continues to illegally occupy even one square meter of Cyprus and as long as it continues to violate even one single Cypriot's human rights! In case you did not know it, for any new candidate country to ever become an EU member, the parliament of each and every single existing member state must also approve such membership. And there is no one single RoC parliamentarian that will ever cast his/her vote for Turkey, without it first having ended the illegal occupation of our country. Never! That is also why you and anyone else of your kind have a zero chance of ever becoming RoC parliamentarians.

fanourıo wrote: Even Papadopoullos said he agrees with Turkey's efforts to join the EU.

Yes indeed, even Papadopoullos said he agrees with Turkey's efforts to join the EU, PROVIDED ............

fanourıo wrote:Why doesn't anybody tell Turkey to withdraw its forces?


The UN Security Council and the UN General Assemply DO, in their numerous resolutions, poor Fanouraki!
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Postby fanourıo » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:39 pm

Gentlemen, I totally agree with Askimows.... People might disagree with me to death but like it was said in history, i will defend to my last drop of blood their right to express their opinion... As long as it does not become personal. For this I aplogise for all the swearing yet once more, it seems i can not help it when I am personally attacked. You understand, and this is towards you, that I might be wrong in your opinion to recognise the TRNC, but it is my right to have an opinion. Neverthless, I work in the TRNC, I live with the Turkish Cypriots, most of which do not like the army, and I am more than welcome here. I just do my job. I believe that the Greek Cypriot Nationalists are wrong. its my opinion. I will not kill anyone. However, is it not strange that I am accused for what I do when that was my choice? Why do people keep calling me a traitor? If you think its money, you are wrong! My salary is not more than any other presenter of News at Bayrak, not a penny more than other University Teacher at the EMU and for sure I am not making a fortune at Cyprus Times or Turkish Daily News... but I was offered 4 part time jobs n the North. Not because I could not work in the South because they would not give me a job but because I would not LIE FOR THE BOSS. So I have decided to work where I am where I can teach with no propaganda included in my lessons, i teach Television production, News Language and Sports Journalism, (see http://mediaif.emu.edu.tr/pages/fanos for summary of my courses) I write freely at the Cyprus Times and The Turkish Daily News, and I present NOT WRITE but just present the Greek News at BRT. Now if you think this is traitorship hang me! You have to take Ariana and other Greek writers with me to the same execution chamber.... Who else wants to come to the North? and be FREE?
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Postby fanourıo » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:48 pm

YES YOU HAVE MADE A POINT! Turkey is illegally occupying Cyprus! The question was why was Turkey DRIVEN AWAY for the past 33 years? Who is going to tell Turkey to leave Cyprus alone??? It is not enough to SAY Turkey is illegal....If now we accept they are illegally here and not protecting the TC after the Zurich London Agreements or whatever reason they have to be here, WHY DOESN ANYBODY IN THE WORLD get them out? maybe because the reasons why they are here are not eliminated yet?? maybe???
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Postby fanourıo » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:50 pm

EU UN USA UK all agree that Turkey is here illegally...Fine! Why dont they tell Turkey to go?
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:00 pm

fanourıo wrote:EU UN USA UK all agree that Turkey is here illegally...Fine! Why dont they tell Turkey to go?


Because the US and the UK have interests in and with Turkey, poor Fanourios! Don't you know this already?

Becasue if Cyprus was Kuwait (oil interests) and Turkey was Iraq (a foe,) then Turkey wouldn't continue to be here in Cyprus.
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