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[fanourıo]

even banks accept and use my ID Card, and they did open accounts for me in YTL and USD,do you need copies of my papers now?

[LENA]

WHAT IS GOING WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS?? Which part of your body do you use to think when you post???
I am sorry I don’t usually talk like that…but I start reading that and you get me upset!

Well lets start from you Fanos! Don’t make me get cross with you!!

The stamps one gets in ROC airports and ports say exactly the same.... as a matter of fact this indication is in EVERY stamp in the world. Even between European countries you still need a working permit in order to work. Whats your point Pyrpo? do you think they employed me on a special agreement? Did they employ me at the University as a ...special agent? Or Cyprus Times is controlled by Talat? Or do you think I am making millions at BRT? You hae it all wrong Pappy boy. The ΚΥΠ for which you work has got it all wrong....
Pitsille you dont even dare to come in touch with me and I dont think you have the guts to come to the North....you have the impression that the Turkish Cypriots are going to eat you or something. Believe me they are just simple people just like the GC. a bit more human and warm hearted, unlike some of you...Call me their agent or a traitor, but do remember: Would it not be more convenient for me to work in the SOUTH if I was a traitor and pass military secrets to the North for example? Just like some people do, maybe amongst you? LOOK around you for traitors not here.... I work in the North, so what? does anybody else hace the guts to do that? I prove every hour that I can live with the TCs, you detest them. Lena, a 22 year old GIRL has visited me in the North, she went to all the places I work and she has observed a few things. She also met with Tony Angastiniotis who is my colleague at the EMU. LENA HAD THE GUTS! You toyboys dont! AND I CHALLEGE YOU IN A GENTLEMAN'S MANNER: COME FOR COFFEE... and what do you reply: all the BS in my other post about a members meeting which ended up locked by admin because an idiot started insulting me and I fell in his trap for answering. Now he teases about a translators job....but he does not send a CV. because he does not have one..... nevertheless, more and more people seem to adopt my views, others disagree, but this is life. and Pyrpo, where did you get the visa, maybe from your last visit to a casino? I am saying this to indicate that most GC just visit the North for cheap shopping and Casinos, not to meet TC people, let alone work with them....

First of all I don’t need to thank me for having guts to meet you! I didn’t really need the guts for that…but to decide to work for my thesis with a topic like that! Yes I am a 22 years old and I came to the north, meet you, Tony, colleagues of yours, I met Halil and his very nice, kind and warm family, relatives and friends of him and a 2 friends of him that work in the Universities and offer me their help! Yes I cross the borders with an ID and issue a kind of visa…: ( That needed guts by me…my topic and work against my believes…but I think that I change my views about some things because of that! But Fanos you don’t have to use me as an example every time that someone insult you. I came with my willing and those people id they want they will do it. To reply back with an insult doesn’t make you better but worst!

And another thing…MOST OF THE GC cross the borders to visit their home, to go to A. Varnava, to visit Kerynia, see our island from the north and meet FRIENDS. TC friends….why you think that is the minority? Minority is the people who go to casinos, go for shopping etc. If it was not the minority the Cyprus problem was not be called Cyprus problem but Cyprus solution until now! And I cross the borders…did I go to casino or for shopping? Even if he did that it’s his problem not yours…you shouldn’t judge him for that…since you work their!

no wonder the turks are here.....maybe they realised people like pitsillos are a threat to theeir own.. I d rather not be called a GC if GC is like Pitsillos.... where did the descent GC go? some other forum? cause in this one all i find is nationalist idiots like Pitsillos who consider their sport "Personal Attacks" Go play some football son...

I don’t believe that you deny your nation! You don’t want to be called GC? What exactly do you want to be called? Ok I agree that they are nice people and kind and good hearted etc…but do they all consider you brothers? ALL? We both have nationalistic idiots, but that doesn’t have to make the rest of us idiots as well and generalise the situation! And you met me and you say that this forum doesn’t have decent GC…is that an insult? I am not GC or I am not decent? Fanos don’t be an idiot like those I describe and generalise the opinion of one! Also we all have to behave like grown ups and talk … not yell or insult other!!


By the way why you do not explain to Pyros the whole issue like you did with me…give an end to that…you are who you are and you already made your deciosions … you are not going to change anything even if you regret. Be honest with others and your self!

@ Pyros

Pyro mou, I told you so many times that you are clever person…and you show that several time…this is one more time…you don’t insult people and you use your brain very well

Permit for 3 months as a visitor.!

Not allowed to work anywhere.!

Thank you Kikapu. Much obliged As you may have noticed Fanourio was hoping that no TC would translate.

Whats your point Pyrpo? do you think they employed me on a special agreement?

Like I said you are working with a special work permit, like every other foreigner, not like a Cypriot, not even like a TC.Why don’t you tell us all about it?

Pyr, at least you are allowed North, i am not allowed south until i get a fucking RoC passport, go figure

Only Europeans and Cypriots are allowed in the free areas. Can’t prove any of the 2? Stay in the pseudo.

Can TCs work in the RoC without an RoC passport?

You don’t need a passport to work paranoid.


@Fanourio

I never crossed to go to the cazinos. I know about 30 TCs very decent people you will be surprised. I gave some names already in the forum.
I agree with you the TCs are warmer than us and kept most of their humanity. We lost that kindness after we were kicked in the streets and lived for long years like gypsies.
This Sub-forum (cyprus problem) is NOT representative of GCs/Tcs ways and manners. it is just representative of any group of people quarelling about politics. Look at other sections to see the real manners.

Now you my dear Shahmaran!

Well you missed a lot about me! It was your decision! Yes I did say that many times! I cross the borders for my thesis! I need guts for that because I had to step on my views and believes for my research, I had to face all my nationalist compatriots, I even had to face an argument with my best friends about that! I don’t need you to judge me for that as well. It was my choice and I went with my own will. And imagine I had TC friend to pick me up from their, offer me his hospitality, open his house for me, introduce me to his family, offer me his help, he even pay for the lunch we had together with his family and my mum and brother as well! Instead of other that they didn’t even want to say hi to me face to face! So please be my guest and leave me alone from all the nationalistic bullshit!

Wow Lena came to the North?!?!

I cant believe i missed it, she did say she never would many times, some people

Well good for her, i'm glad!


Pyr, at least you are allowed North, i am not allowed south until i get a RoC passport, go figure

Oh and guess what, my best friend just got refused RoC citizenship after being about for 1 year, because his father who died when he was 5 is from Turkey, but the kid has never left the island in his entire life, has no other nationality and lives with his TC mother in Lefke in a tiny refugee house, this is the nationality understanding of those
down south, so technically he is one of the people that should be deported if we ever came to an agreement?!!

Great work Papadafuckingshithead and all his supporters, keep it up!

Soon you will have no one left to live with but mainland Turks...

Only Europeans and Cypriots are allowed in the free areas. Can’t prove any of the 2? Stay in the pseudo.

Well then stop bitching about your red little stamp, people like you are not really wanted up here either


Not for too long anyways

@ T_C

I met Tony Angastiniotis thank to Fanos…to be honest I never heart about him before but I am so glad that I met him…his story is quite amazing and I will try to find out more about him when I will have more time…he even gave me his book (that shameless I didn’t manage to finish it…I am quite busy lately) and a DVD about his documenter! The book really amazes me with the way that is written! I am reading the Greek version tho but I hope the translation is quite the same! I even met his wife and his younger angel that is only few months old. If you don’t have his book I am willing to give it to you to read it when I will be back in UK if you are interested…the book that I have in my hand is written in Greek and Turkish!

Id like to meet Tony Angastiniotis too, I've read a lot of his articles and stories about Cyprus on the net.

[shahmaran]

Relax Lena, i did not judge you, do i have to underline the bit where i said "GOOD FOR HER" i hope not, because you do come across to be a pretty clever girl, i don't think i gave you any "nationalistic bullshit" at all, i was just surprised that you did go North after all you have said, anyways i'm glad you did, even if it was for nothing but a project its still a small step forward

...and on another note, i never chose to ignore you, i even offered you my help for your questions and translation needs but you took it all wrong, just because we couldn't meet in London doesn't mean i don't want to meet you, i told you i do, but I'm in Istanbul at the moment, so maybe in summer when we are all a bit more relaxed and happy and tanned

[T_C]

@ T_C

I met Tony Angastiniotis thank to Fanos…to be honest I never heart about him before but I am so glad that I met him…his story is quite amazing and I will try to find out more about him when I will have more time…he even gave me his book (that shameless I didn’t manage to finish it…I am quite busy lately) and a DVD about his documenter! The book really amazes me with the way that is written! I am reading the Greek version tho but I hope the translation is quite the same! I even met his wife and his younger angel that is only few months old. If you don’t have his book I am willing to give it to you to read it when I will be back in UK if you are interested…the book that I have in my hand is written in Greek and Turkish!

Id like to meet Tony Angastiniotis too, I've read a lot of his articles and stories about Cyprus on the net.

I would really appreciate that Lena, I really want to read it. It would be good to meet you too and have chat over coffee, lunch or something. PM me when you're back!

[LENA]

Relax Lena, i did not judge you, do i have to underline the bit where i said "GOOD FOR HER" i hope not, because you do come across to be a pretty clever girl, i don't think i gave you any "nationalistic bullshit" at all, i was just surprised that you did go North after all you have said, anyways i'm glad you did, even if it was for nothing but a project its still a small step forward

...and on another note, i never chose to ignore you, i even offered you my help for your questions and translation needs but you took it all wrong, just because we couldn't meet in London doesn't mean i don't want to meet you, i told you i do, but I'm in Istanbul at the moment, so maybe in summer when we are all a bit more relaxed and happy and tanned

I am relaxed…remember? I did told you that I was going one day…well the day came…I had a serious reason to do that! And since we talk things had changed! I saw things and learn stuff that made me change few of my views!

Anyway! You don’t have to present your self so innocent sweet little boy! You done lots apart from ignoring me like calling me Turk hater…etc! You were even mad when I told you that I was sorry that you wanted to go to Turkey instead of stay in Cyprus! Well I give few chance to people if they lost them…its not my fault! I might not want to meet you any more! You are not so interesting person as I thought! And I am relaxed and happy!!! As for tanned…well I lost part of it in UK but I will try to get that back soon!!!

PS: I hope your “family problem” is getting better! (I put it that way because I didn’t want to mention what it is…sorry if sound a bit bad)

@ T_C

I will do it canim

I would love to meet you, chat with you and get know you better!!

[fanourıo]

Lena my dear you probably misunderstood me as well. I said I would rather not be called a GC if I was a GC like Pitsillos... I did not deny anything. apart from that I declare CYPRIOT, no sauce thank you. Apart from that I have used the fact that you met me only to indicate that a GIRL aged only 22 came to the south while the mucho BOYS dont dare...even to respond to a clear hearted invitation for coffee. as for those who come to the North my intention was to indicate that a lot come for the "wrong" reason, shopping and casinos but that does not include everybody... I dont know a lot that come JUST to make friends though.
As for Tony's Documentary and Book, if anybody is interested I see Tony twice a week, we actually share the same office at EMU so boys and girls, anybody interested in copies in any language, Greek English or Turkish, please feel free to contact me. I will ask Tony if he wishes his email published.

[Kifeas]

Fanourio, can you possibly tell me one single reason why I would want to meet someone that constantly tries to excuse, justify, legitimize and vindicate the invasion and occupation of my country and the ethnic cleansing, usurpation and looting of mine and another 200,000 Greek Cypriot’s properties; other than to kick his ass?

PS: The above is just a question and not a threat.

[fanourıo]

Dear Kifeas,
For one simple reason: To indicate that you too want a solution to this idiocy! To indicate that you can accept the fact that Turkish Cypriots are ....Cypriots! The fact that human contact is far better than spitting against each other through computers is not the best way to meet people and make friends or even kick ass! So accept my invitation, have a cofee with me and then if you still want to kick my ass you can go ahead and dare it.... so ? hows your coffee?
Tassos had coffee with Talat, political leaders met just two nights ago sipping a drink at Famagusta Gate and they will meet again..... why cant we, the simple people that pay for these clowns salaries? Unless you believe a good turk is a dead turk and that I am really a traitor.... get the juice! If I was a traitor would I come HERE or stay there and spy for the Turks? I think that me and Tony Angastiniotis just made this choice, quite progressively, but you dont seem to approve.... well I dont need any approvals. See Tony;s page to realise a few things
http://fcms.emu.edu.tr/tony/

[Kifeas]

Dear Kifeas,
For one simple reason: To indicate that you too want a solution to this idiocy! To indicate that you can accept the fact that Turkish Cypriots are ....Cypriots! The fact that human contact is far better than spitting against each other through computers is not the best way to meet people and make friends or even kick ass! So accept my invitation, have a cofee with me and then if you still want to kick my ass you can go ahead and dare it.... so ? hows your coffee?
Tassos had coffee with Talat, political leaders met just two nights ago sipping a drink at Famagusta Gate and they will meet again..... why cant we, the simple people that pay for these clowns salaries? Unless you believe a good turk is a dead turk and that I am really a traitor.... get the juice! If I was a traitor would I come HERE or stay there and spy for the Turks? I think that me and Tony Angastiniotis just made this choice, quite progressively, but you dont seem to approve.... well I dont need any approvals. See Tony;s page to realise a few things
http://fcms.emu.edu.tr/tony/

Dear Fanourio, the fact that I want a solution and that I consider TCs as Cypriots is an undisputed fact to anyone in this forum with an average IQ and above. I have been in the north quite a number of times and I have a number of TC friends. I ask again, since when meeting someone that tries to excuse, justify, legitimize and vindicate the invasion and occupation of my country and the ethnic cleansing, usurpation and looting of mine and another 200,000 Greek Cypriot’s properties; is an indication that I want a solution and that I I consider TCs as Cypriots? Quite the opposite I would say! What do you think? Or isn't this what you are doing?

[fanourıo]

you can say whatever you wish, I wanted to be fair against each side by indicating that there was bad past from both sides... all these results of the Turkish invasion are indisputable, however you must accept that the Turks had a reason for coming in... even if you disagree with me an offer for a coffee was human, not political. But as it seems we are losing our HUMAN identity in this forum. Nevertheless, do you think a face to face discussion with me will be a loss of time, to say the least, or do you simply hate my guts?