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[zan]

"We only talk about our version of 63-74 and we care for nothing else. What was before is ancient history, what was after is excused. GCs are bad. EOKA is bad. Papadopoulos is bad. TMT is good and thank Turkey for the peace operation. We have the right to violate the human rights of Greek Cypriots and international law because of 63-74. We accept to have a solution with name 'unification' as long as it is partition. Why? Because of 63-74. Did you understand what I said? One turk equals the whole world! I will now post 2000 more posts to make you understand that 63-74 argument. Ok bye.

P.S. 63-74

Basically the above is all. There is no discussion that some TCs would not try to use that tiny distorted version of history to excuse anything and everything including ethnic cleansing of 200.000 people and more than 3 decades of occupation.

And yes, I admit it, whenever I hear that same old crap I can't keep myself from reminding them that they should be the last ones to be digging into history to excuse crimes committed today.

Charges still standing against you. When you pay for what you have done then we can move forward.



One thing you forgot to add to that list of atrocities against us is the result and that is we hold 37% of the island. Our island. The island that you think we should negotiate over. What I think is that you should sit back and wait for a change in power while we stop messing about with your criminal activities and just go for recognition. Long live the TRNC/KKTC.

Thanks for proving my point and my conclusions once again. If you were just a minority among TCs that wouldn't be a problem. But even your leadership shares your Nazi ideas. And then after all these provocations



And total disrespect you complain that some GCs don't like you. You my friend and people like you are the ones that fuel racism on both sides.

Why call a murderer a burglar. You seem to be confusing yourself. You guys are murderers and there is evidence all around that you started all this shit and you intend to carry it on. Your own people are saying it and you are a prime example. You think by sticking your thumb in your mouth and shouting mummy they are calling me a murderer the charges are going to be dropped. Think again lover. These kinds of tactics are old hat and do not faze anyone. We are not embarrassed to call you what you are. We stand up tall and call you what you are. We have seen it in so called Greek islands before and the weak have paid the price. We have seen you beat the minorities into submission but not this time sweetie. If you are good you might be allowed to move back into those ghost towns that are left empty for you but the rest stays with us. When your people see that it is people like you and the rest of the criminals and so called protectors of their rights to blame then they can stone you and ask for our forgiveness. We repeat what we know to be true and we will be repeating them all over again. Nice try though.

You do talk some crap dont you . You are proving time and time again your perverted ideology , we have done what to minorities ???
Are we also responsible for the crimes of foreign nations , are we to be held to account for atrocities committed by Greeks from mainland or by Turks from Turkey ie the Armenian genocide , are we to apportion blame for the denial of rights to 20 million Kurds , are we responsible for what both of the perceived "motherlands" have committed ???
It would be so nice to hear some constructive views from a man that on the whole appears to possess enough education to know the difference between poisonous propaganda and common sense.

Been there..done it....didn't like what I saw.

[Simon]

Precisely. The above says it all. It does not matter what negotiating takes place, people like Zan and VP are not interested in solutions that are fair; it is either the status quo or stealth partition. The initial post on this thread sums the average TC argument up perfectly.

They live in the past (i.e. 63-74) when it suits them, but demand that their crimes, namely, 74-07, and still continuing today; be excused.

My response is simple, if you do not want to re-unite with GCs, then fine, return to us 17% of the part of the island you occupy; so that the divide is based fairly on population percentages, (or there abouts) and you can remain in your racist little regime for eternity. If you will not even agree to this; then feel free to remain isolated from the rest of the civilised world.

[Viewpoint]

Precisely. The above says it all. It does not matter what negotiating takes place, people like Zan and VP are not interested in solutions that are fair; it is either the status quo or stealth partition. The initial post on this thread sums the average TC argument up perfectly.

They live in the past (i.e. 63-74) when it suits them, but demand that their crimes, namely, 74-07, and still continuing today; be excused.

My response is simple, if you do not want to re-unite with GCs, then fine, return to us 17% of the part of the island you occupy; so that the divide is based fairly on population percentages, (or there abouts) and you can remain in your racist little regime for eternity. If you will not even agree to this; then feel free to remain isolated from the rest of the civilised world.

That to one day will have to come to an end just like the wall Papadop was forced to bring down. Your biggest nightmare will be the EU they will make you do things that you never dreamed of, like article 10 which backfired and helped the Orams win their case in the UK. The EU will be the catalyst for bringing the TCs out of isolation against the stubborn GC will . This may not be anytime soon but that day will surely come.

[miltiades]

Even that hard man Ian Paisley in his speech when meting with Gerry Adams for the first time referred to the need to forget the past tragedies and do not allow them to become a barrier for a solution so that our children will not have to go through what we did. The VPs and the Zans of Cyprus are determined to constantly bring forth a past that most of it is the interpretation of their own agenda for the division of Cyprus and the annexation of the occupied part to Turkey. This chief propagandist whose braincells have been permanently thoroughly washed even to the extend that he believes that there are in Norther Cyprus 240 thousand T/Cs !!!! In that figure he was given by his paymasters he gloats an congratulates himself that although more than 50% of T/Cs emigrated , the rest still managed to substantially increase their numbers to 240 thousand.
Neither you nor Zan are worthy of the Cypriot identity , but there again that brave new modern world of Turkey awaits you .You are entitled to your views , I m entitled to condemn them , do not for one second think of responding with your usual tribe , EOKA , 1963 you would blah blah blah.Turn a new page in your textbooks of hatred and respond .

[zan]

Even that hard man Ian Paisley in his speech when meting with Gerry Adams for the first time referred to the need to forget the past tragedies and do not allow them to become a barrier for a solution so that our children will not have to go through what we did. The VPs and the Zans of Cyprus are determined to constantly bring forth a past that most of it is the interpretation of their own agenda for the division of Cyprus and the annexation of the occupied part to Turkey. This chief propagandist whose braincells have been permanently thoroughly washed even to the extend that he believes that there are in Norther Cyprus 240 thousand T/Cs !!!! In that figure he was given by his paymasters he gloats an congratulates himself that although more than 50% of T/Cs emigrated , the rest still managed to substantially increase their numbers to 240 thousand.
Neither you nor Zan are worthy of the Cypriot identity , but there again that brave new modern world of Turkey awaits you .You are entitled to your views , I m entitled to condemn them , do not for one second think of responding with your usual tribe , EOKA , 1963 you would blah blah blah.Turn a new page in your textbooks of hatred and respond .

You admit that the RoC has faults beyond repair and are still trying to sell us faulty goods. At best you are a conman. Find a new supplier and sell something that you can be proud of and win back your respect as a businessman. We are not stupid enough to by your crap so you are angry with us. Either way we do not want your present goods.

[Pyrpolizer]

Precisely. The above says it all. It does not matter what negotiating takes place, people like Zan and VP are not interested in solutions that are fair; it is either the status quo or stealth partition. The initial post on this thread sums the average TC argument up perfectly.

They live in the past (i.e. 63-74) when it suits them, but demand that their crimes, namely, 74-07, and still continuing today; be excused.

My response is simple, if you do not want to re-unite with GCs, then fine, return to us 17% of the part of the island you occupy; so that the divide is based fairly on population percentages, (or there abouts) and you can remain in your racist little regime for eternity. If you will not even agree to this; then feel free to remain isolated from the rest of the civilised world.

That to one day will have to come to an end just like the wall Papadop was forced to bring down. Your biggest nightmare will be the EU they will make you do things that you never dreamed of, like article 10 which backfired and helped the Orams win their case in the UK. The EU will be the catalyst for bringing the TCs out of isolation against the stubborn GC will . This may not be anytime soon but that day will surely come.

Article 10 was the reason the judge said "Some higher authority than me has to decide". in other words the Orams have not won any case, they are just referred to the EU. Exactly there we will EXCECUTE them.

[Pyrpolizer]

Even that hard man Ian Paisley in his speech when meting with Gerry Adams for the first time referred to the need to forget the past tragedies and do not allow them to become a barrier for a solution so that our children will not have to go through what we did. The VPs and the Zans of Cyprus are determined to constantly bring forth a past that most of it is the interpretation of their own agenda for the division of Cyprus and the annexation of the occupied part to Turkey. This chief propagandist whose braincells have been permanently thoroughly washed even to the extend that he believes that there are in Norther Cyprus 240 thousand T/Cs !!!! In that figure he was given by his paymasters he gloats an congratulates himself that although more than 50% of T/Cs emigrated , the rest still managed to substantially increase their numbers to 240 thousand.
Neither you nor Zan are worthy of the Cypriot identity , but there again that brave new modern world of Turkey awaits you .You are entitled to your views , I m entitled to condemn them , do not for one second think of responding with your usual tribe , EOKA , 1963 you would blah blah blah.Turn a new page in your textbooks of hatred and respond .

You admit that the RoC has faults beyond repair and are still trying to sell us faulty goods. At best you are a conman. Find a new supplier and sell something that you can be proud of and win back your respect as a businessman. We are not stupid enough to by your crap so you are angry with us. Either way we do not want your present goods.

Sure. You are only good to rob in our warehouse and steal ALL our TVs, just because you burned your own.

Warning:Do not piss on your TV set to cool it off. You never listen Zan.

[Viewpoint]

Even that hard man Ian Paisley in his speech when meting with Gerry Adams for the first time referred to the need to forget the past tragedies and do not allow them to become a barrier for a solution so that our children will not have to go through what we did. The VPs and the Zans of Cyprus are determined to constantly bring forth a past that most of it is the interpretation of their own agenda for the division of Cyprus and the annexation of the occupied part to Turkey. This chief propagandist whose braincells have been permanently thoroughly washed even to the extend that he believes that there are in Norther Cyprus 240 thousand T/Cs !!!! In that figure he was given by his paymasters he gloats an congratulates himself that although more than 50% of T/Cs emigrated , the rest still managed to substantially increase their numbers to 240 thousand.
Neither you nor Zan are worthy of the Cypriot identity , but there again that brave new modern world of Turkey awaits you .You are entitled to your views , I m entitled to condemn them , do not for one second think of responding with your usual tribe , EOKA , 1963 you would blah blah blah.Turn a new page in your textbooks of hatred and respond .

Did Gerry Adams put down arms and softened his stance to bring about Paisleys speach, it is a 2 way street and as long as there is a traffic jam we will get nowhere. Remember we were the side that said yes to unification as seen by the world and you constantly try to make us out to be the negative side. That support since the referendum has dropped considerably and people are saying well maybe we are bett off as we are, better the devil you know...

I quoted the population of the TRNC ,this appears to make you uncomfortable, well these are the registered citizens regardless of their origins. Don't forget that many TCs who live abroad are also citizens but of course the potential for TCs to return of a solution is great.

You still continue to pedal the propaganda shit about me, why???l everyone appears to be sick of it and they are all aware of the outcome which was to prove I am nothing of the sort yet you still have not come up although your did state you would a formula by which I could show everyone how wrong and twisted your analysis of me, plus obviously you prefer to keep the 1000 ponds in your pocket, all talk no action reminds me of the midget with a big nose.

It appears you have learned nothing about zans and my ideas and opinions you blindly steam ahead not bothering to ask questions that would reveal exactly what we are saying, we both feel that partition is the only realistic option taking into account the chasm between the 2 sides, we are unlike you realist we do not see anything else developing, 44 years is proof enough.

Let me try and clear a few things up for you I am not against a BBF with political equality, no army, right of return and return of settlers but I still feel that both sides do not have the vision capacity or desire to achieve the above and that the current status quo will continue for along time to come.

[GreekForumer]

Charges still standing against you. When you pay for what you have done then we can move forward.

Zan, what is the value of the "bill" that the must be paid ?
Did 6,000 dead GCs go towards paying the "bill" ?
What is left outstanding ?

[Viewpoint]

Charges still standing against you. When you pay for what you have done then we can move forward.

Zan, what is the value of the "bill" that the must be paid ?
Did 6,000 dead GCs go towards paying the "bill" ?
What is left outstanding ?

A BBF with political equality.