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[fanourıo]

You are already a traitor Sotos, only you dont know it.......

[zan]

No proposals! Just as I expected! You all like this or you didnt read it yet? strange..... normally they should jump on something as juicy as this....

Proposals for what?

I know of no country with the name Turkish Cyprus, or Northern Cyprus, as you call it! Which country is this Turkish or Northern Cyprus? Where is it?

If you can't see it from where you are now Kifeas next time you are in the UK be sure to check out the adverts on the London buses and the underground. I can even send you a holiday brochure if you like.

[fanourıo]

They just want to erase the map! speaking of the london buses, do you know where the millions of the CTO went? (Cyprus tourism Organisation)? Yeap Good guess! Lillikas bank account in Switzerland!!!

[Pyrpolizer]

So who wrote the article Alkan like mrfromng said, or Fanourio?

[fanourıo]

Pyrpo.... click here... it will solve your stupid questions... : http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=69225

[Pyrpolizer]

OK Fano, I already saw in the other thread by Kifeas the article is yours and published in TDN.
Now, I have a difficult question for you that you may no want to answer publicly.
Was you original article written as appeared in the TDN or have they Edited it. And if they have to what degree.

You may send me PM if you do not want to answer publicly.

[Pyrpolizer]

Regardless of your answer to the above, I would say the article is... now what should I say.. OK lets say it could have been excellent.

[fanourıo]

thanks. The article was not edited.

[askimwos]

Fanos, if I leave aside your affection for the "trnc" and your willingness to recognise your master's break away state there are some big truths in that articles since it paints the picture of what is actually going on in this forum at least from a number of TCs who choose to moan all the time about isolation. The isolation is described as selfimposed and this is the truth. The so called isolation can only be lifted if it does not lead to the de jure recognition of the occupied areas. This may be done through the use of the RoC controlled ports and airports or though a solution to the Cyprus problem.
If the GC people and the RoC were out for revenge as some TC in this forum claim they wouldn't propose to the TCs to use the RoC ports and airports and wouldn't give what benefits it has given the TC so far. They would just adopt a let them rot policy and call the TCs traitors of their country since they cooperate with the occupying forces.
Don't take me wrongly, I do not support any of the above, I am just trying to show the reason the RoC does not agree to direct trade as the TC mean it - i.e. as a vehicle to de jure recognition.
So if the human rights of TCs can be met by the comanagement of the Famagusta port in return to returniong the city to its legal owners then why not. The RoC is prepared to do this if as a way of restoring some human rights of teh TCs, why not at least restore the human rights of the Famagusta refugees in return?

As I said if we exlude the the whole "trnc" recognition issue, it is a well thought argument that paints the true picture, I woulkd say an excellent one. The CyProb has always been a problem where the two sides make selective demands and in their effort to present their case completely ignore the rights of the other communioty. That's the reason I support a truly independent under a BBF where human rights are respected.

I guess now I should sit back and wait for zan and vp to say that the Famagusta port is open anyway and ships come and go so why return the ghost city? An argument posted so many times before that contradicts the initial claim about isolation.

[miltiades]

I believe that very few responsible Cypriots would not wish to see the isolation of a section of our people coming to an end provided that such ending would not herald de jure recognition of the "TRNC" , and the beginning of the end of a united Cyprus.