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i wouldnt vote for any of them in cyprus simply cos they are all traiters. to whome you may ask cyprus people cors who else................... show me one sooo called leader be it turkish speaking or greek speaking that did somethign for cyprus people they always kiss the ass of turkey and greece thats what they do........ please tell me im wrong i love to be wrong especialy when it comes to my cyrpus but im hardy lever wrong and when im wrong i appologise

[Alexios]

OK eveyone, i have you have gotten things out of your system.

Now back to the original thread.There are 3 main reasons for Papadopoullos effords to sound less intransigent during the last month and a half or so, whilst at the same time appearing to take the lead towards solving the Cyprus problem with such initiatives as nocking down the Ledra street wall etc.

1. Developments regarding the issue of Direct Trade between the North and the EU, which Brussles seems determined to proceed with.This has spread panick at the Presidential Palace, as such a possibility would contribute a great deal towards recognition of the "TRNC". Of course yesterday, talking from Germany. T Pap, tried to play down the importance of such event, employing an incomprehensible legalistic jargon, as to what exactly direct trade means.
2. Linked to the above, is the gradual realization that the strategy followed during the last 3 years, of making Turkey's progress towards her European ambitions stumble on her obligations towards Cyprus thus forcing her to make concessions, has failed utterly and completely.
3. The realization, that the prospect of AKEL supporting TP for another term is not as clear as himself would have wished, with a large number of party members and especially ordinary party members, preferring to support an AKEL candidate instead to say the least. Any positive moves by the President towards commencement of talks is expected to appease those AKEL supporters reacting to another TP term in office.

The above are serious political considerations, but the general more lenient appearing picture the President tries to send out these days, has also to do with a certain Greek company specializing on public communication that has recently been offering its expertise at the Presidential palace....

[zan]

OK eveyone, i have you have gotten things out of your system.

Now back to the original thread.There are 3 main reasons for Papadopoullos effords to sound less intransigent during the last month and a half or so, whilst at the same time appearing to take the lead towards solving the Cyprus problem with such initiatives as nocking down the Ledra street wall etc.

1. Developments regarding the issue of Direct Trade between the North and the EU, which Brussles seems determined to proceed with.This has spread panick at the Presidential Palace, as such a possibility would contribute a great deal towards recognition of the "TRNC". Of course yesterday, talking from Germany. T Pap, tried to play down the importance of such event, employing an incomprehensible legalistic jargon, as to what exactly direct trade means.
2. Linked to the above, is the gradual realization that the strategy followed during the last 3 years, of making Turkey's progress towards her European ambitions stumble on her obligations towards Cyprus thus forcing her to make concessions, has failed utterly and completely.
3. The realization, that the prospect of AKEL supporting TP for another term is not as clear as himself would have wished, with a large number of party members and especially ordinary party members, preferring to support an AKEL candidate instead to say the least. Any positive moves by the President towards commencement of talks is expected to appease those AKEL supporters reacting to another TP term in office.

The above are serious political considerations, but the general more lenient appearing picture the President tries to send out these days, has also to do with a certain Greek company specializing on public communication that has recently been offering its expertise at the Presidential palace....

In other words Alexios "Spin".

[Alexios]

OK eveyone, i have you have gotten things out of your system.

Now back to the original thread.There are 3 main reasons for Papadopoullos effords to sound less intransigent during the last month and a half or so, whilst at the same time appearing to take the lead towards solving the Cyprus problem with such initiatives as nocking down the Ledra street wall etc.

1. Developments regarding the issue of Direct Trade between the North and the EU, which Brussles seems determined to proceed with.This has spread panick at the Presidential Palace, as such a possibility would contribute a great deal towards recognition of the "TRNC". Of course yesterday, talking from Germany. T Pap, tried to play down the importance of such event, employing an incomprehensible legalistic jargon, as to what exactly direct trade means.
2. Linked to the above, is the gradual realization that the strategy followed during the last 3 years, of making Turkey's progress towards her European ambitions stumble on her obligations towards Cyprus thus forcing her to make concessions, has failed utterly and completely.
3. The realization, that the prospect of AKEL supporting TP for another term is not as clear as himself would have wished, with a large number of party members and especially ordinary party members, preferring to support an AKEL candidate instead to say the least. Any positive moves by the President towards commencement of talks is expected to appease those AKEL supporters reacting to another TP term in office.

The above are serious political considerations, but the general more lenient appearing picture the President tries to send out these days, has also to do with a certain Greek company specializing on public communication that has recently been offering its expertise at the Presidential palace....

In other words Alexios "Spin".

Sorry Zan, i am not very familiar with the relevant jargon.What does "spin" mean here??

[zan]

Sorry Alexios. It is an art form in the UK and the US and I am sure other places as well but seems to have only just acquired a permanent paid position in the RoC.


Spin
In public relations, spin is a sometimes pejorative term signifying a heavily biased portrayal in one's own favor of an event or situation. While traditional public relations may also rely on creative presentation of the facts, "spin" often, though not always, implies disingenuous, deceptive and/or highly manipulative tactics. Politicians are often accused of spin by commentators and political opponents, when they produce a counter argument or position.

The term is borrowed from ball sports such as cricket, where a spin bowler may impart spin on the ball during a delivery so that it will curve through the air or bounce in an advantageous manner.

The techniques of "spin" include:

Selectively presenting facts and quotes that support one's position (cherry picking)
Non-denial denial
Phrasing in a way that assumes unproven truths
Euphemisms to disguise or promote one's agenda
Ambiguity
Skirting
Rejecting the validity of hypotheticals
Appealing to internal policies
Another spin technique involves careful choice of timing in the release of certain news so it can take advantage of prominent events in the news. A famous reference to this practice occurred when UK government press officer Jo Moore used the phrase It's now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury, (widely paraphrased or misquoted as "It's a good day to bury bad news"), in an email sent on September 11, 2001. The furor caused when this email was reported in the press eventually caused her to resign.


[edit] Spin doctor
Skilled practitioners of spin are sometimes called "spin doctors", though probably not to their faces unless it is said facetiously. It is the PR equivalent of calling a writer a "hack". Perhaps the most well-known person in the UK often described as a "spin doctor" is Alastair Campbell, who was involved with Tony Blair's public relations between 1994 and 2003, and also played a controversial role as press relations officer to the British and Irish Lions rugby side during their 2005 tour of New Zealand.

The American radio and television talk-show host Bill O'Reilly, who is often considered a spokesman for conservatism, has called his television show The O'Reilly Factor "The No Spin Zone", emphasizing his own purported dislike of the phenomenon. Some other American talk and radio-show hosts and commentators, such as Keith Olbermann, who maintains an on-going "feud with Bill O'Reilly", and who himself has been tagged with being more liberal in his views, mock O'Reilly's epithet "no spin zone" suggesting his own avoidance of "spin" to be just another instance of spin from "the other side". (Olbermann frequently labels O'Reilly as "The Worst Person in the World" in one of his segments on his own show Countdown, which airs at the same time as The O'Reilly Factor on rival cable network MSNBC.) Such commentators on politics, despite their prominent roles in mainstream-media journalism, which purports to maintain objectivity, at times and sometimes even often seem engaged in the very phenomenon of spin that they deride. Many such commentators and their featured on-air media consultants, commonly termed "talking heads" or pundits, come to programs on radio, television, and in publishing from prior professional careers in public relations and politics, sometimes even as former political campaign directors or speech writers for political figures; for those who do, mastering the "art" of spin has already been an important part of their past work experience, and it may lead not only to their acute understanding and critique of the phenomenon but also to their supreme ability to continue practicing it in ever-more subtle ways.

State-run media in many countries also engage in spin by selectively allowing news stories that are favorable to the government while censoring anything that could be considered critical. They may also use propaganda to indoctrinate or actively influence citizens' opinions.

[Alexios]

Thank you Zan. This was very informative indeed.Sounds very familiar now, especially as far as the media are concerned.

[fanourıo]

Good work Zan, although i must admit my head started spinning....! lol so we all agree there was a 180 degree spin from TP?

[fanourıo]

Pitsillos why do you always have to get so personal? When will you start communicating? This behaviour of yours is at least sickening!

[Pyrpolizer]

1. Developments regarding the issue of Direct Trade between the North and the EU, which Brussles seems determined to proceed with.This has spread panick at the Presidential Palace, as such a possibility would contribute a great deal towards recognition of the "TRNC". Of course yesterday, talking from Germany. T Pap, tried to play down the importance of such event, employing an incomprehensible legalistic jargon, as to what exactly direct trade means.

I am really wondering what the hell you are trying to say!
Wouldn’t you panick if you were the RoC president at such an eventuality? Would you perhaps enjoy it?
And how exactly Papadopoulos tried to play down the importance of such an event?
If for you whatever right you are ever left with is "legalistic jargon" then you better let someone hung you, because "legalistic jargons" are just that.

[Pyrpolizer]

The above are serious political considerations, but the general more lenient appearing picture the President tries to send out these days, has also to do with a certain Greek company specializing on public communication that has recently been offering its expertise at the Presidential palace....

If that’s so I would say they ‘ve done miracles. Even Papadopoulos opponents are applauding, these days.