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[Piratis]

Piratis

And you never know the value of something period, since when you steal it you can't appreciate the effort that went into creating it.

ho I know the value of my freedom and safety believe you me thats why its so difficult putting it in the hands of GCs... I have never stolen anything in my life and have worked very hard for everything I enjoy today and no i do not live on disputed land.

Nobody asked you to put in the hands of GCs. All you are asked for is to stop supporting illegal things. Didn't you vote for those that support the occupation Viewpoint? Maybe you don't personally live in GC land, but you support that your aunt or your cousin or your sister does. Not very different.

[zan]

Lets put it this way then.....We deserve 100% and you don't....Yet.....Not until we can grow just like you did on our land and then you can be upgraded too.

We didn't grow on your land. You forced as there and then you declared some crap about "exchange" land. Or you forgot about that?

Beginning to get cranky now Piratis. You forced us into a corner and then you claim to be the victim.




Captain I think she is going critical....I think she is going to blow.....

[Viewpoint]

piratis you are the one who claims your were forced to sign the 1960 agreements not me, how long do you think that would last before you rehashed the Akritas and tried to water down our rights, it didnt work before and it would be a grave mistake to return to it in its current form.

The 1960 agreements were obviously way to your favor. But today there is EU and ECHR etc. If we have any right to what we say is unfair then we can find justice in peaceful ways. If we don't have right then we will accept it. Except if you are planning to start a conflict again even if we just dare to make proposals?

So what you are saying is come get your 100% rights but I will change them, very encouraging Piratis, my conclusion that going back to these agreements in thier current form would be a grave mistake for Tcs rings true dont you think as you appear ot agree with me.

[Piratis]

Oh no Zan, 3 of those decades are charged on the bill you will have to pay to me As you said I am already paying the bill for whatever happened until 74. But isn't what you say a contradiction with what VP said previously about the gains of TCs and how they are happy with the status guo?

Where did I say that? could you provide the quote.

Didn't you say just a page or 2 ago how satisfied you are with what you gained on our loss with the illegal occupation now that you can be far from the "evil GCs" that wanted to harm you and all your usual bullshit?

Could you kindly post my quote, did I use those words? must be getting old.

Of course are not your words, last time I checked you called a murderous barbarian invasion a peace operation. Sorry that I can't do the same.

Here it is:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 513#151513

Not exactly how you interpreted it as you were boasting about your economy and wealth and all I said was there are more important values but hey I wouldnt expected you to understand you are not made that way, anything positive makes your gut wrench in anger.

Where did you see the anger? I just said it contradicted with what Zan said about being in exile for 40 years. Why he didn't go to the so lovely "trnc" to live happily ever?

[Piratis]

Lets put it this way then.....We deserve 100% and you don't....Yet.....Not until we can grow just like you did on our land and then you can be upgraded too.

We didn't grow on your land. You forced as there and then you declared some crap about "exchange" land. Or you forgot about that?

Beginning to get cranky now Piratis. You forced us into a corner and then you claim to be the victim.




Captain I think she is going critical....I think she is going to blow.....

We didn't force you anywhere. You are the ones who performed ethnic cleansing over 200.000 people and you insist on it for over 3 decades using some lame excuses of a distorted version of the history they taught you about a whooping 5 years (that was exaggerated to 11 just for you)

[zan]

Piratis wrote

Where did you see the anger? I just said it contradicted with what Zan said about being in exile for 40 years. Why he didn't go to the so lovely "trnc" to live happily ever?

And I explained...why are you still asking the same question. Maybe putting in the overtime to impress the bosses after you made such an inefficient fool of yourself eh!

[Piratis]

piratis you are the one who claims your were forced to sign the 1960 agreements not me, how long do you think that would last before you rehashed the Akritas and tried to water down our rights, it didnt work before and it would be a grave mistake to return to it in its current form.

The 1960 agreements were obviously way to your favor. But today there is EU and ECHR etc. If we have any right to what we say is unfair then we can find justice in peaceful ways. If we don't have right then we will accept it. Except if you are planning to start a conflict again even if we just dare to make proposals?

So what you are saying is come get your 100% rights but I will change them, very encouraging Piratis, my conclusion that going back to these agreements in thier current form would be a grave mistake for Tcs rings true dont you think as you appear ot agree with me.

What I am saying is you get back all your rights, and we get back all of ours. If you think some of our rights are racist and unjust you can also use legal means to try to challenge them. For example I think it is unfair for you that a TC can not be elected president. Thats a racist discrimination and you should definitely challenge that. Why not? Aren't we suppose to progress?

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

And you never know the value of something period, since when you steal it you can't appreciate the effort that went into creating it.

ho I know the value of my freedom and safety believe you me thats why its so difficult putting it in the hands of GCs... I have never stolen anything in my life and have worked very hard for everything I enjoy today and no i do not live on disputed land.

Nobody asked you to put in the hands of GCs. All you are asked for is to stop supporting illegal things. Didn't you vote for those that support the occupation Viewpoint? Maybe you don't personally live in GC land, but you support that your aunt or your cousin or your sister does. Not very different.

So now you are going against your own principles and saying we will share political power equally so that GCs do not dominate. I support the right of my community to live in safety and freedom on their shared island this was not possible mixed with Gcs so we have had to go it alone to secure our survival and until of if a solution can be found which to date has not been possible.

[Piratis]

Piratis wrote

Where did you see the anger? I just said it contradicted with what Zan said about being in exile for 40 years. Why he didn't go to the so lovely "trnc" to live happily ever?

And I explained...why are you still asking the same question. Maybe putting in the overtime to impress the bosses after you made such an inefficient fool of yourself eh!

Why are you getting upset Zan? I was a bit sick and I stayed home today. What about you and VP? You seem to be responsible to answer every post any GC makes in here. Actually now you are trying to post together to make me tired I guess, but I also guess I am quite younger than you You have to call in the next shift

[Piratis]

Piratis

And you never know the value of something period, since when you steal it you can't appreciate the effort that went into creating it.

ho I know the value of my freedom and safety believe you me thats why its so difficult putting it in the hands of GCs... I have never stolen anything in my life and have worked very hard for everything I enjoy today and no i do not live on disputed land.

Nobody asked you to put in the hands of GCs. All you are asked for is to stop supporting illegal things. Didn't you vote for those that support the occupation Viewpoint? Maybe you don't personally live in GC land, but you support that your aunt or your cousin or your sister does. Not very different.

So now you are going against your own principles and saying we will share political power equally so that GCs do not dominate. I support the right of my community to live in safety and freedom on their shared island this was not possible mixed with Gcs so we have had to go it alone to secure our survival and until of if a solution can be found which to date has not been possible.

Not sure how you came to the conclusion I go against my principles. My principles have always been that all citizens of a country should be equal without racist discriminations. If any discriminations existed in the 1960 agreements either against GCs or against TCs then I think it is fair that those parameters to be challenged now that we are in the 21st century.