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[Piratis]

I am still none the wiser...........I just wanna go home and as I have nothing, but a handful of worthless title deeds in the political agenda, I feel my negotiating powers are very limited ........that I have suffered a great injustice at the hands of America, Britain and Turkey bears NO RELEVANCE TO THE PRESENT.......... I just wish I could go home and build on my father's land. Why do we, GCs not accept we've been screwed and try to get the best deal we can for ourselves, because very soon, it will be too late and my children's children will neither care nor know about Cyprus.

Because the "best deal" they offered was to screw us again. Maybe a few GCs would have some material benefit from it by recovering part of what was stolen from them but thats were the somewhat positive things end. Unfortunately there is no fair solution with any prospect on offer today.

No solution will be good enough for Piratis, he will continue to find fault in anything put before him where there is even 000000000.1% in favor of the TCs. Your only option Piratis is as you have stated many time to wait for that swing to try your luck at getting what you want but never forget thet swing could take things the other way and then where will you be? screwed yet again due to your own stupidity.

We might be screwed and pushed lower from where we could be due to your aggression and illegalities but we are still way ahead of you. Thats just a fact. I will not try to explain this as some might say I am racist again. So yes, we can wait.

The Annan plan was 99% your demands, so don't tell me about 000000000.1%.

Piratis good luck to you I hope with the oil you become even richer if that makes you happy. People are different to me the safety of my family is priority, health, contentment, and then things money can buy. Obviously your priorities are different.

I said even if any plan containing 000000000.1% in favor of the TCs you would still reject it, thats why the only option left for you is to wait for that swing.

No if it is 0.00000001% I wouldn't reject it. But have you ever thought that the most fair is one that is for either the favor of both or the favor of non (on the expense of another)? Or that thought never passed from your mind?

As for your family being safe etc, keep teaching your kids your evil GC theories. Tell them to tell those stories when they come asking for work also.

I doubt you accept any plan short of putting us 6ft under and my children can make up their own minds they dont need me to tell them anything you are doing a great job at alienating them.

So a plan were all Cypriots get the 100% of their rights, is equivalent with "6ft under" for you? What will happen? You will die from your sadness that you didn't manage to exploit your victorious invasion and gain on our loss?

Would that be the 100% right to become just another minority? as long as we have the Turkish army we have no fear of dieing thank you for caring.

So the 100% of your rights according to RoC constitution is not enough for you now right? So how much you want? 200%? 300%? What? Oh, I remember, you want 450% so that each TCs will worth as much as 4.5 GCs, right? And I thought the "one Turk equals the whole world" was just an old story.

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piratis you are the one who claims your were forced to sign the 1960 agreements not me, how long do you think that would last before you rehashed the Akritas and tried to water down our rights, it didnt work before and it would be a grave mistake to return to it in its current form.

[Piratis]

Oh no Zan, 3 of those decades are charged on the bill you will have to pay to me As you said I am already paying the bill for whatever happened until 74. But isn't what you say a contradiction with what VP said previously about the gains of TCs and how they are happy with the status guo?

The OXI on the Annan plan has set us free Piratis. We live our lives as we see fit now and not wait around for you guys to make your minds up as to how much more you can squeeze out of us. Now we are happier. Then we had hope that you guys would see sense but alas greed has been your downfall.

The greedy is the 18% that wants the 50% power and 29%+ of land. Very obvious. No need to argue more about that.

Annan plan has legalized non of your illegalities and it is null and void. Since you accepted that plan you also accepted that is now null and void as this was part of the pan itself.

@Piratis, i have told you that i have told you why i think you are racist, infact i told you in various occasion, quit ignoring it!

Sure you accused me without any basis of this. But the fact remains, and I will repeat it for you.
You are racist because:
You support the ethnic cleansing of 200.000 people
You support that Cypriots should be split based on their ethnic background
You do not accept that a TC and GC individual can be equal citizens without any racist descriminations.

Didn't say it legalised anything. What I said is that it set us free from waiting for you lot to come up with something other than the greedy demands that you are still making. One minute you boast about how your economy has grown and is growing and then you want more from us. Is it getting cramped in he south then. We need a country and not a little enclave that your ancestors tried to shove us into.

We grown our economy by working for it even thought we had 200.000 refugees to house and support. Thats what we do, we work to achieve things. We don't just steal what others created like you do.

Really good luck to you...you never know the value of something until you lose it dont you think?

And you never know the value of something period, since when you steal it you can't appreciate the effort that went into creating it.

[zan]

Lets put it this way then.....We deserve 100% and you don't....Yet.....Not until we can grow just like you did on our land and then you can be upgraded too.

[Piratis]

Oh no Zan, 3 of those decades are charged on the bill you will have to pay to me As you said I am already paying the bill for whatever happened until 74. But isn't what you say a contradiction with what VP said previously about the gains of TCs and how they are happy with the status guo?

Where did I say that? could you provide the quote.

Didn't you say just a page or 2 ago how satisfied you are with what you gained on our loss with the illegal occupation now that you can be far from the "evil GCs" that wanted to harm you and all your usual bullshit?

Could you kindly post my quote, did I use those words? must be getting old.

Of course are not your words, last time I checked you called a murderous barbarian invasion a peace operation. Sorry that I can't do the same.

Here it is:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 513#151513

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Piratis

And you never know the value of something period, since when you steal it you can't appreciate the effort that went into creating it.

ho I know the value of my freedom and safety believe you me thats why its so difficult putting it in the hands of GCs... I have never stolen anything in my life and have worked very hard for everything I enjoy today and no i do not live on disputed land.

[Piratis]

piratis you are the one who claims your were forced to sign the 1960 agreements not me, how long do you think that would last before you rehashed the Akritas and tried to water down our rights, it didnt work before and it would be a grave mistake to return to it in its current form.

The 1960 agreements were obviously way to your favor. But today there is EU and ECHR etc. If we have any right to what we say is unfair then we can find justice in peaceful ways. If we don't have right then we will accept it. Except if you are planning to start a conflict again even if we just dare to make proposals?

[Piratis]

Lets put it this way then.....We deserve 100% and you don't....Yet.....Not until we can grow just like you did on our land and then you can be upgraded too.

We didn't grow on your land. You forced as there and then you declared some crap about "exchange" land. Or you forgot about that?

[zan]

piratis you are the one who claims your were forced to sign the 1960 agreements not me, how long do you think that would last before you rehashed the Akritas and tried to water down our rights, it didnt work before and it would be a grave mistake to return to it in its current form.

The 1960 agreements were obviously way to your favor. But today there is EU and ECHR etc. If we have any right to what we say is unfair then we can find justice in peaceful ways. If we don't have right then we will accept it. Except if you are planning to start a conflict again even if we just dare to make proposals?

Now you really are twisting things around and sounding like a propaganda lying machine.

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Oh no Zan, 3 of those decades are charged on the bill you will have to pay to me As you said I am already paying the bill for whatever happened until 74. But isn't what you say a contradiction with what VP said previously about the gains of TCs and how they are happy with the status guo?

Where did I say that? could you provide the quote.

Didn't you say just a page or 2 ago how satisfied you are with what you gained on our loss with the illegal occupation now that you can be far from the "evil GCs" that wanted to harm you and all your usual bullshit?

Could you kindly post my quote, did I use those words? must be getting old.

Of course are not your words, last time I checked you called a murderous barbarian invasion a peace operation. Sorry that I can't do the same.

Here it is:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 513#151513

Not exactly how you interpreted it as you were boasting about your economy and wealth and all I said was there are more important values but hey I wouldnt expected you to understand you are not made that way, anything positive makes your gut wrench in anger.