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Turks had no right to bring stability to Cyprus

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby zan » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:11 am

Piratis wrote:


Here are some more from your source:

First Greeks in Cyprus:

After 1400 B.C., Mycenaean and Mycenaean-Achaean traders from the northeastern Peloponnesus began regular commercial visits to the island. Settlers from the same areas arrived in large numbers toward the end of the Trojan War (traditionally dated about 1184 B.C.). Even in modern times, a strip of the northern coast was known as the Achaean Coast in commemoration of those early settlers. The newcomers spread the use of their spoken language and introduced a script that greatly facilitated commerce. They also introduced the potter's wheel and began producing pottery that eventually was carried by traders to many mainland markets. By the end of the second millennium B.C., a distinctive culture had developed on Cyprus. The island's culture was tempered and enriched by its position as a crossroads for the commerce of three continents, but in essence it was distinctively Hellenic.


First Turks in Cyprus:

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


Today in the 21st century and we still wonder when the Turks will decide to finally join the civilized world. Today they are still trying to give excuses for their crimes and illegalities and trying to get their way by brute force instead of democracy.

Nobody is a saint and we all have our share in guild. But the Turks have the largest share not only in our past history but in present as well. Whats worst, is that while others (Greece - Cyprus) have recognized their mistakes (and people were send to jail) on the contrary the Turks not only they keep denying them but they promise they will continue in the same criminal way.

My suggestion: Stop the illegalities and crimes by using lame excuses that expired decades ago. It will be beneficial for everybody in the region including Turkey and TCs.



Sorry....Was this after the Republic was formed.


You are like a broken record trying to cover up recent history with rubbish from hundreds of years ago. None of what you wrote gives the Greeks any excuse for doing what they did. Your propaganda will not work any more Piratis so give it up (he says in vain). None of our aggressive leaders are in our government. Can you say the same. We want to live in Cyprus as equals; you want to subjugate us to second class citizens. That is what is happening here and now and not what happened a thousand years ago. We do not threaten you with war but you do to us on a daily basis. It is your 21st century mentality that we can be thankful for not having if by having it, it means that we will walk over an entire people by hook or by crook. Call me all the backward names you like but it will not cover up your blood stained hands.
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Postby humanist » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:15 am

Zan, I believe the Turkish Speaking regime has 40,000 troops stationed on the Island. Who is therefore threatenning whom with war on daily basis?
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Postby zan » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:37 am

humanist wrote:Zan, I believe the Turkish Speaking regime has 40,000 troops stationed on the Island. Who is therefore threatenning whom with war on daily basis?


Was it not you guys that are threatening us with violence when there is a shift in power. Does not that mean that we have the power now.
Why have they not attacked and taken the island. What they are saying is leave us alone and talk but the RoC will not talk and has never wanted to. This time when Talat calls of a meeting to the hundreds that TPap has refused you keep calling for Talat to stop being aggressive. All he asked for was a delay he did not keep refusing to meet TPap as the leader of his people. All double standards. We have to make all the moves and play by the RoCs rules. We do not recognise the RoC as the legitimate government of Cyprus so this attitude that you have the upper hand is a misplaced one.
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Postby Murataga » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:52 am

Piratis- ENOSIS was illegal after 1959. And it was never an option before than, only a lunatic crusade. It was effectively barred in the Constitution. Papaodupoulos strived for ENOSIS even after 1959. He made propaganda for ENOSIS, he promoted ENOSIS, he supported ENOSIS, he provoked for ENOSIS... All ILLEGAL.

Your share of the guilt is the biggest for trying to implement ENOSIS illegally through political means and by cold bloded murders of innocent TCs who had nothing against you in the first three years of the Republic.
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Postby Murataga » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:58 am

Well someone has to break the silence...

GREECE 1 - TURKEY 4

and in Athens, with no Turkish supporters, and with three of the best players of Turkey off the field. Congratulations well deserved 8)
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Postby zan » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:59 am

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Postby shahmaran » Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:59 pm

Murataga wrote:Well someone has to break the silence...

GREECE 1 - TURKEY 4

and in Athens, with no Turkish supporters, and with three of the best players of Turkey off the field. Congratulations well deserved 8)


Yet another spectacularly humiliating defeat against the Greeks!

They were booing and whistling during the Turkish national anthem and kept throwing things at our players all through out the game, rude sons of bitches got exactly what they deserved, an incredible defeat by a team who didn't even have some of its main players, EXCELLENT!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well done Turkey!!
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:03 pm

every order every action that was carried out in cyprus was a direct order either from turkey greece or britain............... they had most to gain from devided cyprus......... if you do not carry out an order when an order is given they shoot you for treason for disayaying a direct order .............. sooo the uneducated cypriots carried out many many orders killing thier own islanders............. and why did this happen becouse they became agents of turkey greece and briatain ...................... please let me know that there is one person in thsi forum who has the brains to agree with what i say
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Postby Piratis » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:05 pm

You are like a broken record trying to cover up recent history with rubbish from hundreds of years ago.


Recent history? Recent history is yesterday: Turks illegally occupying Cyprus
Ok, recent history is also 5 years ago: Turks illegally occupying Cyprus
Ok, maybe we can say that even 10 or 15 years are recent histroy: Turks illegally occupying Cyprus.

I don't need to "cover up" anything. You are the ones who are trying to cover up the crimes you commit TODAY using history as an excuse. But when you are reminded that even during history you were the aggressors the 99% of the time and the ones who started it all you don't like it, do you?

It is very funny when for some Turks "history" is just their own distorted version of a decade that they want to use as a lame excuse for more and more crimes against us, in the same way they have always did since the day they set their foot on our island.
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Postby zan » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:09 pm

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