turkish_cypriot wrote:Natty wrote:Hi Turkish Cypriot, I'm very sorry about what your Mother went through, It must have been very painful for her having to relive those memories....
As far as I know, during that period there were many armed groups fighting each other on both sides, some fought each other for positions only and did not involve civilians whilst others (The extremist minority) did involve civilians, and I believe that at the hands of these extremist minorities on both sides innocent Greek and Turkish Cypriots suffered. (Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong. I’m no expert of this period, I'm still learning myself..
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However I think that one has to remember that being the majority there will would always have been more GC extremists than TC extremists and that because of this more innocent Turkish Cypriots suffered at the hands of extremists than Greek Cypriots. You will always be able to inflict more pain on others with more men....(Although this may not be the full story, but I believe it makes up part of what happened during the inter-communal fighting period.)
I think it's when the suggestion is made that Makarios and the Goverment were somehow attempting to systematically ethnically cleanse or 'genocide' Turkish Cypriots that gets some people annoyed...
I acknowledge (and feel shame) that during that period many Turkish Cypriots suffered at the hands of some Greek Cypriots, but I cannot acknowledge that the people who were ruling the Country (All GC at that time, as far as I know..) were attempting to rid Cyprus of it's Turkish Cypriot population...it doesn't add up with many of the facts...
(I think I've come up with a new phrase, let me see if you can possible guess what it could be...
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However I think that one has to remember that being the majority there will would always have been more GC extremists than TC extremists and that because of this more innocent Turkish Cypriots suffered at the hands of extremists than Greek Cypriots. You will always be able to inflict more pain on others with more men....(Although this may not be the full story, but I believe it makes up part of what happened during the inter-communal fighting period.) Was this your phrase Natty?
And it does make sense even if it wasn't the one. I've never really thought of it that way and I do understand what you're saying. I don't have a problem with anyone anyways. I'm quite neutural and accept that Turkish people aren't exactly angels, I'm aware of what the GCs have been through because of them, even when I get defensive sometimes I always take into consideration what is being said and I don't hold a grudge against anyone in here. I'm still learning too but I just don't know what/who to believe or trust, because both sides seem to be dodgy. Therefore I can't really evaluate anything for myself and come to a conclusion about what the best thing for Cyprus would be when theres so many lies, so much ignorance, denial and petty finger pointing from both sides
. If a stranger who didn't know anything about Cyprus came on here they would be shocked to read the amount of rubbish thats posted in here
Thanks for your honest response Natty shame people on here can't post like this on a daily basis
Hey Turkish Cypriot, unfortunately that's not my phrase...and I think maybe phrase was the wrong word to use....maybe saying?
It was actually,
As far as I know...another one to add to my little collection..
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99.9%,
'Although I could be wrong' and now
'as far as I know.. '...
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Thanks Turkish Cypriot, that's very sweet of you
. I first came across this forum when I had just started to become interested in the Cyprus problem, and the history behind it. I'd read some books and articles, etc, .but I really wanted to read people's personal experiences during that time and get other peoples' opinions. Ironically actually I remember one of the first threads I read was one about people's experiences during the intercommunal fighting. I remember reading about Kikapus childhood experience and feeling very touched by it, and actually feeling very touched about his attitude, he'd been through sad times in Cyprus yet he just wanted to move on and try and find a fair solution to the Cyprus problem (And I believe there are many others like that in the Cyprus forum...)
Sometimes it's been hard finding out about the history of the Cyprus problem, for example, you might come across something which you just can't believe happened (Like the first time I found out about the massacres in Tochni and elsewhere, I felt so ashamed that members of my community could commit such sadistic crimes against innocent people..) and it can be quite difficult to understand what happened, you never know who's correct and who isn't, I guess you just have to try and separate as much as you can the hard facts from the fiction and try and put yourselves in others shoes, and understand why people did what they did, or felt how they felt..
I have to say, I've learned a lot from this forum, at the very least I've learnt about people's different opinions about the Cyprus problem and their personal experiences...before I only had my family's opinions and experiences to go on, talking to others has helped me gain a more rounded view on the Cyprus Issue...
(And the fact that I’ve gained friends as well is a definite added bonus…
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Okay I think I'm going to stop typing now, I've rambled on for far too long I think...
