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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:45 pm

but imagine living day after day, daring to sleep at night because you are getting shot at or bombed. for a period of i dunno, 6 months. then going back to carrying on your life with no side effects.. NO CHANCE, GET REAL.


Fuck them - these squadie wankers never pick a fair fight. Its just another example of two men from your local English town causing trouble whilst out on the lash. The English need to be careful in Cyprus, their PR is not great right now, especially after the incident in Protaras with the boy being rammed off his moped and killed by a few more English knuckle-heads.
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Postby BOF » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:57 pm

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
but imagine living day after day, daring to sleep at night because you are getting shot at or bombed. for a period of i dunno, 6 months. then going back to carrying on your life with no side effects.. NO CHANCE, GET REAL.


Fuck them - these squadie wankers never pick a fair fight. Its just another example of two men from your local English town causing trouble whilst out on the lash. The English need to be careful in Cyprus, their PR is not great right now, especially after the incident in Protaras with the boy being rammed off his moped and killed by a few more English knuckle-heads.

this has been the case throughout : there have been many wars that british forces have taken part in. ww 1/ ww2/ Korea etc. i dont remember any of my relatives or neighbours sons/ fathers coming back and Beating the bejabers out of people and blaming the war..that it does affect some people is not in doubt....but that doesnt constitute violent action against ordinary people. When military visit foreign postings or recreational breaks they are specifically told they are representitives of their country and unit, and god help them if they get into trouble. These two decided to ignore this...
The English living in Cyprus do not need to be careful....it is not them causing problems, its the doughbag element that visits thats the problem...we moved here to get away from these idiots and live a better life. Please dont tar us all with the same brush.
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Postby RichardB » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:06 pm

To my mind the fact that the assailants were British squaddies does not come into the equation.

It doesn't matter what nationality they are , What colour or what creed

These people who act in a violent manner towards another person should feel the full weight of the law come down on them
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Postby THE HIGHLANDER » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:10 pm

BOF wrote:
the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
but imagine living day after day, daring to sleep at night because you are getting shot at or bombed. for a period of i dunno, 6 months. then going back to carrying on your life with no side effects.. NO CHANCE, GET REAL.


Fuck them - these squadie wankers never pick a fair fight. Its just another example of two men from your local English town causing trouble whilst out on the lash. The English need to be careful in Cyprus, their PR is not great right now, especially after the incident in Protaras with the boy being rammed off his moped and killed by a few more English knuckle-heads.

this has been the case throughout : there have been many wars that british forces have taken part in. ww 1/ ww2/ Korea etc. i dont remember any of my relatives or neighbours sons/ fathers coming back and Beating the bejabers out of people and blaming the war..that it does affect some people is not in doubt....but that doesnt constitute violent action against ordinary people. When military visit foreign postings or recreational breaks they are specifically told they are representitives of their country and unit, and god help them if they get into trouble. These two decided to ignore this...
The English living in Cyprus do not need to be careful....it is not them causing problems, its the doughbag element that visits thats the problem...we moved here to get away from these idiots and live a better life. Please dont tar us all with the same brush.


Well said Bof..............i'll second that..........respect is one of the most important things when visiting or residing in another country !!!
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Postby sweetie pie » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:10 pm

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
but imagine living day after day, daring to sleep at night because you are getting shot at or bombed. for a period of i dunno, 6 months. then going back to carrying on your life with no side effects.. NO CHANCE, GET REAL.


Fuck them - these squadie wankers never pick a fair fight. Its just another example of two men from your local English town causing trouble whilst out on the lash. The English need to be careful in Cyprus, their PR is not great right now, especially after the incident in Protaras with the boy being rammed off his moped and killed by a few more English knuckle-heads.


They just happen to be British. They will be punished. Whoever injures another should be punished. The squaddies are no different to the Cypriots who stab and shoot one another on a weekly basis. They will be punished.
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Postby Damsi » Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:01 pm

dms007 wrote:
Damsi wrote:They arrested them today. The soldiers were on leave from either Iraq or Afghanistan. I guess they get away with that sort of behaviour there and it slipped their minds that they had returned to civilisation.


How can someone be so ignorant to write comments like this.

They "returned to civilisation" he says.
Civilisation is everywhere, just becasue they are in Iraq or Afghanistan does not mean they can do whatever they want.
They just cannot pull up and beat a civilian any part of the world.

You have to realise that being in Iraq or Afghanistan does not give them freedom to beat up whoever they like.


dms007
I guess irony is not your strong point :) Of course they shouldn't do that sort of thing just because they are in a war zone. My point was THEY think they can do whatever they want simply because they can get away with it there.
Having said that, it must be hard to switch off constantly having to watch your back and kill or be killed...and having said that..they did sign up for it. Then again on the other hand they too are just pawns of the war machine.
Gee sometimes it's hard being a Libra.
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Postby Svetlana » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:12 pm

While the past should never be denied, It seems that some seem to want to focus on it:

Investigation into primary school teacher’s graphic torture pamphlet
By Elias Hazou
(archive article - Wednesday, March 28, 2007)
AN OVERZEALOUS elementary school teacher decided to enrich her 10-year-old students’ curriculum by giving them a paper graphically describing the torture of prisoners by the British during the EOKA struggle.

The Ministry of Education was informed of the instructor’s actions after the story appeared in Greek language Politis, and is investigating.

The contentious material was taken from the book The 1955-59 EOKA Struggle by author Georgios Assiotis. The pamphlet shown to the schoolchildren describes, in shocking detail, the sufferings of an EOKA captive at the hands of his British torturers. It came with vivid pictures of the victim.

According to Politis, the teacher not only told her students to study the pamphlet at home, but also to put it in their own words later in class.

She gave the assignment in anticipation of April 1, the official holiday commemorating the start of the EOKA liberation struggle against British dominion.

In the pamphlet, the EOKA fighter describes a variety forms of torture to which he was subjected: locked up in a casket, hung upside down, head in a vice, stretched out on four posts, injections, twisting and food deprivation.

One excerpt reads: “They placed my head in a vice and squeezed. It felt that my brains would burst any moment. Another time, they would pin me to the ground, place a wet handkerchief over my nose so I couldn’t breathe, and start pouring water into my mouth. I was drowning.

“My stomach swelled. Then someone would step on my stomach, causing the water to spurt out of my mouth. After that, they would shoot me in the spine with huge injections.”

The hair-raising testimony ends on an ominous note: “Today, this freedom fighter, who was so inhumanely treated, is alive. But he can hardly sit down on a chair, as a result of the unspeakable tortures he was subjected to. One of his arms is dislocated and is all but useless.”

The Education Ministry has said that it will investigate what happened in the classroom and possibly take disciplinary action against the teacher.

Officials are also considering circulating a memo to schools advising teachers to refrain from exposing children to violent content.

Studies have shown that abstractive thought is poorly developed in pre-teens.

Abstractive thought enables an individual to emotionally distance one’s self from depictions of violence. Without this buffer, a person’s psyche is extremely vulnerable to such exposure.
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Postby jambo » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:26 pm

that was a clever thing to do ??
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Postby G.Man » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:46 pm

This is a fact that the troops were british, but had it happened at home it just would have read "squaddies assault taxi driver over fare dispute" and we do not know what the taxi driver did to provoke the attack, but you there is evidence of taxi drivers not setting their meter and trying to rip off drunk tourists historically, so who knows.. maybe he was one of those???

Whilst the actions involving any form of violence are unacceptable, lets not kid ourselves that this is ANY different to a group of drunks beating up anyone else, the fact they are british squaddies is really irrelavant except in building race hate!

Lets look at alcohol first..

1in10 people breath tested last weekend over the drink drive limit, 1in4 in pafos... is beating someone up any less acceptable than driving around a lethal weapon without being in full control of your faculties? Drink driving related deaths are far higher than "british troop or british tourist" related deaths on cyprus... Doesn't seem to get as much press here tho? maybe because british involvement creates more race hate and drink and driving related deaths mean you would have to question your own ethics not those of others...

Then lets look at violence...

Okay, howabout how many cyprus army members have been locked up in prison for violence (just conscripts, not people that have fought in a war zone), or setting fire to live animals, maybe beating live animals to death.. Then how big a problem there is with poisoning of animals...

Lets not pretend we are perfect here and start pointing the finger... these people acted badly, but when you have been thru and seen the sort of things these people have seen in a war zone, it does mess you up, its called post traumatic stress.. How many of you will see friends blown apart by bombs, or have to try and collect a best friends leg that has been blown off by a bombing...

And lets not forget, that these people who may have been tortured by british 50 years ago, may well have been involved in the sort of terrorism we are trying to fight these days, only back them theyw ere called freedom fighters... At what point does a freedom fighter become a terrorist and vice versa? Maybe only history decides?

People are people, they are all both good and bad in variable measures.. and for different reasons..
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Postby G.Man » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:47 pm

sweetie pie wrote:
the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
but imagine living day after day, daring to sleep at night because you are getting shot at or bombed. for a period of i dunno, 6 months. then going back to carrying on your life with no side effects.. NO CHANCE, GET REAL.


Fuck them - these squadie wankers never pick a fair fight. Its just another example of two men from your local English town causing trouble whilst out on the lash. The English need to be careful in Cyprus, their PR is not great right now, especially after the incident in Protaras with the boy being rammed off his moped and killed by a few more English knuckle-heads.


They just happen to be British. They will be punished. Whoever injures another should be punished. The squaddies are no different to the Cypriots who stab and shoot one another on a weekly basis. They will be punished.


EXACTLY!!!
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