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[GreekForumer]

Can someone please enlighten us on this episode of Cretan history.

Akritas: A plan for the extermination of the Turkish Cypriots
Opinion by Ali KÜLEBİ

One of the most saddening examples of such an expansion took place in Crete. Today, no Muslim Turk remains in Crete, where 200,000 of them once lived at the beginning of the 1800s. This island, which we conquered with the blood of thousands of Turkish sons, was lost in the political arena due to the various deceptions and plots coming from the Greek side. On Aug. 16 1866, the Cretan Greeks, who acquired the support of Russia, England, and France, wiped out the Muslims of the island -- 30,000 Turks overnight -- together with the auxiliary forces of Greece.

Ali Külebi is the acting president of the National Security Strategies Research Center (TUSAM). He can be reached at [email protected]

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=61606

The following timeline from the SAME newspaper makes no mention of the August 16th "wiping out".

Crete, a bitter reminder for Turkish Cypriots

1866 - Napoleon II said that, 'he could do what is necessary for Crete Christianity as happened before for the Syrian Christians'

May 26, 1866 - In order to create the necessary conditions, all deputies who came from all the provinces of Crete assembling in Epitropia decided to give a petition to the sultan, demanding the fulfilling of the requirements of the Reforms Edict. It was announced to the delegates in the name of Bab-i Ali by Governor Ismail Pasha, that demands which are related to tax and equity were refused and some others would be examined.

Aug.23, 1866 - After this, delegates and rebels announced that they would wage an armed struggle, and the rebellion started.

Sept. 2, 1866 - The Assembly that was constituted of rebels, announced that they did not recognize the presence of Turkish sovereignty on the island, and that the annexation of the island was Greece. Russia gave full support to the rebels in the rebellion. France supported the island to be given to Greece, who is standard bearer of the nationalist thoughts. Italy was of same attitude as France, because of her goal ensuring national integrity. England was against the island to be given to Greece, since her Mediterranean policy was based on not nations, but her national interests. During the rebellions the London Government supported the Bab-i Ali.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arch ... p?id=28192

[karma]

Can someone please enlighten us on this episode of Cretan history.

Akritas: A plan for the extermination of the Turkish Cypriots
Opinion by Ali KÜLEBİ

One of the most saddening examples of such an expansion took place in Crete. Today, no Muslim Turk remains in Crete, where 200,000 of them once lived at the beginning of the 1800s. This island, which we conquered with the blood of thousands of Turkish sons, was lost in the political arena due to the various deceptions and plots coming from the Greek side. On Aug. 16 1866, the Cretan Greeks, who acquired the support of Russia, England, and France, wiped out the Muslims of the island -- 30,000 Turks overnight -- together with the auxiliary forces of Greece.

Ali Külebi is the acting president of the National Security Strategies Research Center (TUSAM). He can be reached at [email protected]

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=61606

The following timeline from the SAME newspaper makes no mention of the August 16th "wiping out".

Crete, a bitter reminder for Turkish Cypriots

1866 - Napoleon II said that, 'he could do what is necessary for Crete Christianity as happened before for the Syrian Christians'

May 26, 1866 - In order to create the necessary conditions, all deputies who came from all the provinces of Crete assembling in Epitropia decided to give a petition to the sultan, demanding the fulfilling of the requirements of the Reforms Edict. It was announced to the delegates in the name of Bab-i Ali by Governor Ismail Pasha, that demands which are related to tax and equity were refused and some others would be examined.

Aug.23, 1866 - After this, delegates and rebels announced that they would wage an armed struggle, and the rebellion started.

Sept. 2, 1866 - The Assembly that was constituted of rebels, announced that they did not recognize the presence of Turkish sovereignty on the island, and that the annexation of the island was Greece. Russia gave full support to the rebels in the rebellion. France supported the island to be given to Greece, who is standard bearer of the nationalist thoughts. Italy was of same attitude as France, because of her goal ensuring national integrity. England was against the island to be given to Greece, since her Mediterranean policy was based on not nations, but her national interests. During the rebellions the London Government supported the Bab-i Ali.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arch ... p?id=28192

As I know , it is true..but most of the Cretan Turks are originally Greeks converted to Islam, coz even today they keep speaking in Greek and most of them live in Lebanon, Syria, Turkey..

[EUropean666]

bcoz i am from crete, listen to this..there are no cretan greeks or cretan turks...

cretans live there since the dawn of history. Some of us were using force converted to islam, many cretes are paganists and etc. during the ottoman occupation turks tried to change the population and brought asians and other mongol muslims. however we managed to keep our race clcean from mongols. after 300 years of barbarism dont expect the cretans to mercy any of them.

In 1866 a revolt occured, the end was th slaugtheting of many cretans while daskalogiannis was skin out alive and burned. in 1866 cretans revolted on their own,

in 1913 cretans asked the union with greece. though that greece did not agree, cretans with their own culture went to athens with guns and took it. they asked all of cretans who were muslims to change religion to anything against islam or leave the islan..this what has happened.

so what u say is purely proganda, there are 100,000 cretans living in turkey, they are free to come back as long as they will be real cretan and not asians.

In 1866 jihadis blew up a monastery and killed the ppl who found refugee there.

cretans have their own culture and freedom and they do not accept any muslim-like propagnda.

Muslims have not reason to clain anything against crete

here is the history

http://hep.physics.uoc.gr/HistCrete.htm

[EUropean666]

bcoz cretans are brave ppl and they have fought islam for centuries here is comment for sfakia warriors against mehmen the pedophile's jihad

Sfakians and the fall of Constantinople

In January 1453 AD, Sultan Mehmet II had the capital city of the Byzantine Empire, Constantinople, surrounded. He decided that he was going to take it over either by breaking through the city’s defenses or by starving the inhabitants into submission. The sultan had his troops and an enormous fleet at his disposal while the besieged Byzantines (and their Christian allies) were demoralized and divided amongst themselves. Responding to a request for help from the Byzantine Emperor, the Sfakian leader Manousos Kallikratis gathered 300 Sfakian warriors and another 760 Cretan fighters from other parts of the island. The leader then sailed in five ships (three of which were Sfakian) and went to help the besieged Emperor.

The Sfakian/Cretan forces fought valiantly by breaking through the Ottoman blockade and by defending the city itself. Many Cretans died alongside the Byzantines, as well as alongside the few Genoese and Venetian co-defenders. When the city fell, the only 170 surviving Cretans had been surrounded by Ottoman troops in one of the city’s towers and were refusing to surrender. The sultan was so impressed by their courage and fierce fighting skills that he agreed to let them walk out of the city with their flags, arms, and wounded and sail away to Crete in one of their ships.

A poet of the time has the Byzantine Emperor saying as he was surrounded by the Ottomans, "Christians, Greeks, cut off my head, take it, good Cretans, and carry it to Crete, for the Cretans to see it and be sad at heart." Just a few words from an anonymous poet described the deep impact the fall of Constantinople had on the Cretans. They were to become the next home of the refugees from Byzantium and responsible for nurturing the rich heritage left to them by the collapsing Byzantine Empire.

[cypezokyli]

i cannot say about the exact numbers, but a number of cretan turks were for sure killed or forced to leave crete.
what happened in crete set ofcource an example. how the greek cretans treated giritli turks, gave turkish cypriots pretty good reasons of not wanting union with greece

[shahmaran]

well i rather shoot myself in the face than unite with arseholes like european666 thats for sure

[EUropean666]

surely in 1866 those who died where cretans.

in 1913 around 100,000 cretans who did not change religion have to leave our country. cretans have their own culture, and surely they never liked been under occupation from anyone, even today they are much independent.

i think that they would not have any problem to welcome back the cretan turks as long as they prove that they are cretans and not turks. they have been some reunions.

[T_C]

well i rather shoot myself in the face than unite with arseholes like european666 thats for sure

I AGREE! european666 is an ignorant racist!

[Get Real!]

well i rather shoot myself in the face than unite with arseholes like european666 thats for sure

There... there... you can always unite with me right here in Tarttagala!

[karma]

well i rather shoot myself in the face than unite with arseholes like european666 thats for sure

I AGREE! european666 is an ignorant racist!

I agree , some1 must tell him tht Mehmet II had greek mother