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Turkey's military performance in July 1974...

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Postby Jerry » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:33 pm

The most important factor in the relative strengths of military forces in Cyprus is the fact that Turkey has an air force and the GCs don't. You only have to see how the US dealt with Iraqi armour to realise that it would be no contest. The overwhelming Turkish superiority in Cyprus says two things to me: 1. Behave or we will take the whole island. (hardly consistant with their EU aspirations but then their generals are all dinosaurs) 2. We are in Cyprus for ever, get used to it.
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Re: Turkey's military performance in July 1974...

Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:43 pm

joderv1 wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
reportfromcyprus wrote:What's your point, that the GC will do better next time round? Give me a break.


My point is that technically we could have defended our country well, had it not been for the internal mess, from an invasion of hopeless illiterate anatolian peasants.


Well if you were so clever you wouldn't have got invaded and ended up with such a spectacularly humiliating defeat like your Greek cousins did, would have you now :lol:

Literate or not, Turkey has not lost many wars, somebody must be doing something right :roll:


Hi Shahmaran,
Not taking sides, but honestly just interested. Why did Turkey lose the war against Malta?

Jo :)

Posters like Shahmaran probably don't even know where Malta is on a map let alone know about the Ottoman empire's first major defeat in the siege of Malta of 1565 where some 35,000 men were crashed by around 6,000 knights and soldiers stationed there.

Of course a good debater will twist that and say that the Ottoman empire was not just comprised of Turks and that Turkey "begins" from 1923 onwards, so that would severely limit the humiliation but that's asking too much of this user... :)

Regards, GR.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:00 pm

Jerry wrote:The most important factor in the relative strengths of military forces in Cyprus is the fact that Turkey has an air force and the GCs don't. You only have to see how the US dealt with Iraqi armour to realise that it would be no contest. The overwhelming Turkish superiority in Cyprus says two things to me: 1. Behave or we will take the whole island. (hardly consistant with their EU aspirations but then their generals are all dinosaurs) 2. We are in Cyprus for ever, get used to it.


Although Turkey has a huge advantage in numbers she is certainly not invincible against Cyprus and her constant turbulent and fragile political nature could be used against her in the event of a conflict, as powerful strikes on Turkish soil could cause the Turkish government to capitulate and scurry to the negotiating table.

Take note that Cyprus does have the technology to strike most cities in southern Turkey and it's by no accident that she's been courting with France eversince the summer of 2006 *

* Israeli invasion of Lebanon caused creation of UNIFIL which in turn made Cyprus offer basis to France in exchange for Mistral technology (off the record :))
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:07 pm

My position is always that nobody wins in war.

How long would Cyprus have left to rejoice in its strikes on Turkish cities, do you think, before the retaliation came and obliterated the families that live on this island?

Event if you're not afraid of war, I'm not afraid to admit it scares the living daylights out of me.
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Re: Turkey's military performance in July 1974...

Postby joderv1 » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:
joderv1 wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
reportfromcyprus wrote:What's your point, that the GC will do better next time round? Give me a break.


My point is that technically we could have defended our country well, had it not been for the internal mess, from an invasion of hopeless illiterate anatolian peasants.


Well if you were so clever you wouldn't have got invaded and ended up with such a spectacularly humiliating defeat like your Greek cousins did, would have you now :lol:

Literate or not, Turkey has not lost many wars, somebody must be doing something right :roll:


Hi Shahmaran,
Not taking sides, but honestly just interested. Why did Turkey lose the war against Malta?

Jo :)

Posters like Shahmaran probably don't even know where Malta is on a map let alone know about the Ottoman empire's first major defeat in the siege of Malta of 1565 where some 35,000 men were crashed by around 6,000 knights and soldiers stationed there.

Of course a good debater will twist that and say that the Ottoman empire was not just comprised of Turks and that Turkey "begins" from 1923 onwards, so that would severely limit the humiliation but that's asking too much of this user... :)

Regards, GR.


Hi Get Real, I was interested to hear the Turkish side too as I am Maltese and wondered why they lost to this very small Island. I will wait and see response. if not from Shahraman, maybe someone else.

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Postby zan » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:04 pm

Can we post some pictures of our willies now, to put the icing on the cake. (Does that sound disgusting or what).



Can I just say:

America> Vietnam :roll:
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Re: Turkey's military performance in July 1974...

Postby shahmaran » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:46 pm

joderv1 wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
reportfromcyprus wrote:What's your point, that the GC will do better next time round? Give me a break.


My point is that technically we could have defended our country well, had it not been for the internal mess, from an invasion of hopeless illiterate anatolian peasants.


Well if you were so clever you wouldn't have got invaded and ended up with such a spectacularly humiliating defeat like your Greek cousins did, would have you now :lol:

Literate or not, Turkey has not lost many wars, somebody must be doing something right :roll:


Hi Shahmaran,

Not taking sides, but honestly just interested. Why did Turkey lose the war against Malta?

Jo :)


That was the Ottoman Empire i believe, not Turkey ;)

So quick to judge you are Get Real! I have not claimed that Turks never loose, the discussion is about Greeks and Turks...but ofcourse you are too smart to realise :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:29 pm

I 've seen the armaments listed by RFC. If we assume that the Gc forces are about the same do you know what this means guys?

There is almost 2000 atrillery, missiles, tanks ,mortar all about 100mm each one levels out 40X40m, kills 100X100m

It means if each one of them fires just a few bombs, the result would be equivalent to an atomic bomb. The whole of Cyprus would be leveled out in case of war. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby zan » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:32 pm

Just what we have been asking for......A level playing field. :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:55 pm

zan wrote:Just what we have been asking for......A level playing field. :lol:


That's news to me then

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