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[BirKibrisli]

It is strange also that just as Dentash and Makarios were ready to sign a new deal, Makarios "died".

Are you by any chance suggesting Makarios did not die of natural causes,Zan???

How many times did they try to kill him????????

Yeah..They have to get lucky only once,don't they???

I wonder what our GC forumers think about this possibility...

[miltiades]

The correct figure between 1956-1974 is just under 800...

http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler1.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler2.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler3.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler4.html

iceman spine chilling site, you have just quashed the claim that no TC died 8 years prior to 1974, thank you for putting the record straight. All was not what GC claim and want to believe, what have you to say Miltiades and co who kept putting this argument forward your lies are out in the open for everyone to see.

VP , this is a site owned and run by Turkish nationalists , the names and images of people killed 8 years before the invasion prove one thing and one thing only. That the propaganda is alive and well , are there any articles that you can find in the Turkish Cypriot press at the time to prove ONE T/C killed in conflict ? The perpetrators of this propaganda showing images of people ought to be ashamed of them selves , these are real images of real people , let them , with your help , give us some links to these people's demise.

[Viewpoint]

The correct figure between 1956-1974 is just under 800...

http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler1.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler2.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler3.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler4.html

iceman spine chilling site, you have just quashed the claim that no TC died 8 years prior to 1974, thank you for putting the record straight. All was not what GC claim and want to believe, what have you to say Miltiades and co who kept putting this argument forward your lies are out in the open for everyone to see.

VP , this is a site owned and run by Turkish nationalists , the names and images of people killed 8 years before the invasion prove one thing and one thing only. That the propaganda is alive and well , are there any articles that you can find in the Turkish Cypriot press at the time to prove ONE T/C killed in conflict ? The perpetrators of this propaganda showing images of people ought to be ashamed of them selves , these are real images of real people , let them , with your help , give us some links to these people's demise.

You have been proven wrong, your claim was no TC died after 1966 admit your lies and you will feel better. The attached lists show many deaths after your claim, you will no doubt excuse, dismiss and explain away with that well known GC mentality the majority, you still cannot get away from the fact that TCs did die during those times just like your eoka leader you and those that backed you up are outright liars.

PS if you want full details of exactly how these people died then try writing to the organisation I am sure they will be happy to furnish you with all the information you require but someone like you who is in denial with still see white as black.

[miltiades]

VP , dont be so bloody naive , this paper is written by people just like you , and your team of propagandists. I state again , NO T/C WAS KILLED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS 7 - 8 YEARS PRIOR TO THE TURKISH INVASION.
You call me a liar , how dare you and your team of cheap amateur propagandists insult me. You are seen through and through for what you are. Put your money where your mouth is. Independent evidence , not a bloody Turkish mainland propaganda rug , but evidence that these deaths occurred as a result of conflict. As for being in denial , you and your team a have a habit of calling the kettle black . Your suggestion that I should write to this "organization " requesting evidence is laughable.

[Viewpoint]

VP , dont be so bloody naive , this paper is written by people just like you , and your team of propagandists. I state again , NO T/C WAS KILLED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS 7 - 8 YEARS PRIOR TO THE TURKISH INVASION.
You call me a liar , how dare you and your team of cheap amateur propagandists insult me. You are seen through and through for what you are. Put your money where your mouth is. Independent evidence , not a bloody Turkish mainland propaganda rug , but evidence that these deaths occurred as a result of conflict. As for being in denial , you and your team a have a habit of calling the kettle black . Your suggestion that I should write to this "organization " requesting evidence is laughable.

You are a liar and everyone has seen you and people who supported in saying no TC died 8 years prior to 1974 for what you really are, I see you are now reverting to 7. Any information put forward will be discredited as propaganda, so whats the point...what you have to come to terms with is that everything was not rosy in those times TCs and GCs were not living inharmony, people did die or go missing why do you have problems accepting this fact?

If this organisation can provide you with evidence of just one murder will you still discredit it? this is called being in denial...shit happened accept it and move on or does this ruin your we all lived together in harmony dream until the Turkish Army turned up will Miltiades it may have been heaven for GCs but it was hell for TCs, where was your we are all Cypriots ideology then?

[zan]

VP , dont be so bloody naive , this paper is written by people just like you , and your team of propagandists. I state again , NO T/C WAS KILLED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS 7 - 8 YEARS PRIOR TO THE TURKISH INVASION.
You call me a liar , how dare you and your team of cheap amateur propagandists insult me. You are seen through and through for what you are. Put your money where your mouth is. Independent evidence , not a bloody Turkish mainland propaganda rug , but evidence that these deaths occurred as a result of conflict. As for being in denial , you and your team a have a habit of calling the kettle black . Your suggestion that I should write to this "organization " requesting evidence is laughable.

Can we call any deaths that happened in the enclaves through starvation and disease natural or forced???? Especially after Makarios cut off the water.

[pitsilos]

zan i for one would be very interested in knowing more about the enclaves...any info will be appreciated...thanks

[shahmaran]

VP , dont be so bloody naive , this paper is written by people just like you , and your team of propagandists. I state again , NO T/C WAS KILLED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS 7 - 8 YEARS PRIOR TO THE TURKISH INVASION.
You call me a liar , how dare you and your team of cheap amateur propagandists insult me. You are seen through and through for what you are. Put your money where your mouth is. Independent evidence , not a bloody Turkish mainland propaganda rug , but evidence that these deaths occurred as a result of conflict. As for being in denial , you and your team a have a habit of calling the kettle black . Your suggestion that I should write to this "organization " requesting evidence is laughable.

oh yeah the "gang" know it all as usual, and if it doesn't fit in their little box its gotta be a propaganda site, well its a MEMORIAL site for the families who have lost their relatives you inconsiderate baboons, and its a TRNC site not a Turkish site, if you have any "independent" counter-evidence than bring it on, if not then stop bitching like a bunch of old hags and start accepting that the GCs were FAR from being angelic...

oh and snake its an incredible oxymoron when you talk about "dignity", keep it up man you are making my day here

[miltiades]

VP , dont be so bloody naive , this paper is written by people just like you , and your team of propagandists. I state again , NO T/C WAS KILLED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS 7 - 8 YEARS PRIOR TO THE TURKISH INVASION.
You call me a liar , how dare you and your team of cheap amateur propagandists insult me. You are seen through and through for what you are. Put your money where your mouth is. Independent evidence , not a bloody Turkish mainland propaganda rug , but evidence that these deaths occurred as a result of conflict. As for being in denial , you and your team a have a habit of calling the kettle black . Your suggestion that I should write to this "organization " requesting evidence is laughable.

You are a liar and everyone has seen you and people who supported in saying no TC died 8 years prior to 1974 for what you really are, I see you are now reverting to 7. Any information put forward will be discredited as propaganda, so whats the point...what you have to come to terms with is that everything was not rosy in those times TCs and GCs were not living inharmony, people did die or go missing why do you have problems accepting this fact?

If this organisation can provide you with evidence of just one murder will you still discredit it? this is called being in denial...shit happened accept it and move on or does this ruin your we all lived together in harmony dream until the Turkish Army turned up will Miltiades it may have been heaven for GCs but it was hell for TCs, where was your we are all Cypriots ideology then?

It appears that you have plenty of time in your hands so why not back up your claim by producing evidence from the TURKISH CYPRIOT press during the 7 or 8 years prior to the invasion. Do you not agree that if such killings took place in 1966 -67-68-69-70-71-72-73 the Turkish press would have carried the news on their front page ?? You can point me to any Turkish newspaper at the time , and I do have translators here that would assist. So , you produce some evidence , even the tiniest evidence not the crap produced by a publication funded by the Turkish propaganda department showing images of alleged victims of G/C massacres.
On another point , you may have managed with some people to convince them that you are one individual posting his own views but let me tell you , you are an amateur and so is the department that you run and your team of helpers . You need a much longer break , I originally thought about 3 months , but you rushed and came back in days . You are not fooling me VPs , your in the employment of the "trnc" , prove me wrong and I will contribute £1000.00 to any charity you would care to mention.

[miltiades]

VP , dont be so bloody naive , this paper is written by people just like you , and your team of propagandists. I state again , NO T/C WAS KILLED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS 7 - 8 YEARS PRIOR TO THE TURKISH INVASION.
You call me a liar , how dare you and your team of cheap amateur propagandists insult me. You are seen through and through for what you are. Put your money where your mouth is. Independent evidence , not a bloody Turkish mainland propaganda rug , but evidence that these deaths occurred as a result of conflict. As for being in denial , you and your team a have a habit of calling the kettle black . Your suggestion that I should write to this "organization " requesting evidence is laughable.

oh yeah the "gang" know it all as usual, and if it doesn't fit in their little box its gotta be a propaganda site, well its a MEMORIAL site for the families who have lost their relatives you inconsiderate baboons, and its a TRNC site not a Turkish site, if you have any "independent" counter-evidence than bring it on, if not then stop bitching like a bunch of old hags and start accepting that the GCs were FAR from being angelic...

oh and snake its an incredible oxymoron when you talk about "dignity", keep it up man you are making my day here

I have asked VPs department to come up with Turkish Newspapers reports of these killings at the time , surely they would have made front page news , so give them a hand and come up with something factual not an article by a propaganda site , designed and run purely to poison the minds of Cypriots and to jettison any hopes of reconciliation between our two communities. No body on this forum , to the best of my knowledge has ever posted that the G/Cs were "angelic" as you state. The fanatics existed then and exist now , in both communities. The "baboons "also existed then just as they exist now , also the "inconsiderate " existed then just as they exist now, dont believe me , check your postings and you will see all of these.

Let me just add this . Why do you think that T/Cs on this forum post precisely identical posts of reconciliation and air their concerns about the loss of the T/C identity and their wish for ONE CYPRUS . Are they baboons perhaps or inconsiderate to their peoples feelings? NO they are mature , educated , True Cypriots who possess enough intelligence and foresight vision to know that our island needs to be independent as one unit because the division of Cyprus and the annexation to Turkey of a large chunk of our island will NEVER be accepted by the future generations and conflict will erupt time and time again. The True Cypriots want their Cyprus to be the home of the Cypriots governed by Cypriots not foreigners.